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Old 02-04-2012, 09:58 AM   #16
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That's a very persuasive case for solid state. Do you mind me asking for a ball park quote for a decent solid state laptop and a reputable vendor ( highly doubtful there is a merchant that carries quality merchandise like that out here in the sticks ) ? I try to stick to low-mid level gear in terms of cost primarily because it mitigates losses in the event a machine is damaged while working away from home. Z/Z
Sony Vaio's on the higher consumer-end for example are availlable with SSD directly from Sony.
Mostly also prepaired with Win7, so you might have to remove that sticker from the case if you don't want dual-boot.
I believe is getting more and more 'a standard option' for the newer machines.
Hands-on I noticed the difference in speed between the sister modell with normal HDD.
The normal HDD has more capacity and is less expensive, should be using more battery-power then the one with SSD-drive.
The SSD should also be more shock-resistent (when running) which is good for industry-laptops, in plains and so on.
 
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:41 AM   #17
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LinuxNoobX actually sort of had the terminology right, even though you are right as well on RAM being volatile. The whole 'RAM disc' term gets a bit fuzzy once you start really looking at it. From the 'Let's suppose my Laptop had in the area of 30 GB of RAM. What special modifications need to be made (hardware and software) for me to run Linux off the RAM?' question, what LinuxNoobX is actually thinking about a 'virtual' RAM drive, not a 'hardware' RAM drive. (BTW, a virtual RAM drive is do-able with linux).

As far as hardware RAM drives go, theres been a few over the years, the only company still making them AFAIK is hyperOS-

http://www.hyperossystems.co.uk/07042003/index.htm

They get around the volatility problem with a battery (limited lifespan before the charge goes out) and an external power brick.
What is a 'virtual RAM drive'?

I, personally, don't see anything fuzzy about RAM disk terminology. Either the data is retained across power cycles/reboots, or it isn't. The memory technology used is either RAM, or it isn't. If it is RAM and is non-volatile, it is extremely unlikely to be the sort of RAM used as part of a system's main memory, which is what the OP was talking about.

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Old 02-04-2012, 01:42 PM   #18
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The various options described in the post all have their merits. Solid state and 3.0 both are very reasonable options for long-term speed improvement but I have noticed with 2.0 USB Flash drives that data transfer to and from are not always symmetrical.

The Debian-method allows for the immediate and drastic improvement of computer performance regardless of whether the 3.0 or solid state hardware is present which makes it an ideal skill for any professional that needs to increase performance on short notice but is not a very good long-term solution... to make it a moar viable long term solution certain modifications would need to be made such as periodic swapping of data to the hard disk in the event of sudden power loss or a kernel panic ( as it is still ram a reboot would result in loss of all important data unless there are periodic back-ups to the hard disk )

I am a bit older than some people here and I remember many years ago in the US when children were killing (literally... I am serious) each other over sneakers that said "Reebok" on them. I am against buying products based on popularity as opposed to functionanlity (for me the combination or form and function is true art). Sony makes good computers BUT half the price is due to the SONY name they slap on it. I can hire a comp sci student to custom build a machine that is as good or better for one-quarter the price and I help a comp sci student with his tuition in the process. That is personal preference mind you.

If I were a rich man with low standards I may not care about the quality of my hardware and I probably would not be on this forum right now. Z/Z
 
Old 02-07-2012, 08:28 AM   #19
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@me Drools...

When I woke from my technology-induced coma I was going to thank you for showing me a magnificent piece of hardware. Then I saw the price tag and saw the shenanigans you were up to.

How stupid do you think I am? I have seen 256 MB 2.0 Flash drives go for moar than that amazing 50 GB 3.0 Flash Drive. You should not be hosting bogus websites to falsely raise the hopes of technology addicts... it is hurtful and cruel. Aluminum casing... we all know manufacturers are too cheap to spend a nickel on non-synthetic materials.

You are a bad bad man

Kidding aside... have you taken it for a test drive? I'll take the word of a pro over a company press release any day. Z/Z
No, I' havent tersted one, and I'm not going to.

I could get a bigger, faster SSD for less than a poxy USB 3.0 flash drive.

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What is a 'virtual RAM drive'?

I, personally, don't see anything fuzzy about RAM disk terminology. Either the data is retained across power cycles/reboots, or it isn't. The memory technology used is either RAM, or it isn't. If it is RAM and is non-volatile, it is extremely unlikely to be the sort of RAM used as part of a system's main memory, which is what the OP was talking about.
A 'virtual' RAM drive is doing it with main system memory. Its a 'virtual' drive in that there is not actual HDD/SSD, its just software making the drive (similar to virtual drives).

Most SSDs doesnt really use RAM, but flash memory instead. If it wasnt for pervious use, I believe that 'flash drive' would be a better description of the vast majority of SSDs around now. The SSDs that do use volatile memory are quite often reffered to as 'RAM drives'. See, fuzzy.

Considering that the OP said "RAM Disk computers in existence do not come in the laptop variety" I dont think they actually know much about the subject, and if they do they werent thinking of using the main system memory as a drive (software RAM drive)....or else they would have known that its totally possible with current laptops.
 
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:41 AM   #20
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In truth I knew next to nothing about RAM disk technology other than that wikipedia said the technology is possible. In a google search of Ram disk I turned up nothing to indicate the technology existed in any form let alone laptop variety. Having made no headway with Google I then started this thread to ferret out answers about the technology and got many viable responses about it and its alternatives.

In my humble noob opinion when it comes to reliable computer technology information hackers trump google, wikipedia or anything else. Z/Z
 
  


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