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Old 10-04-2003, 11:35 PM   #1
strongshock
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Question Elusive Samba Printer


ok, i'll start by saying i'm a n00b when it comes to *nix.

i installed Mandrake 9.1 on my laptop and i'm trying to print to my XP box's printer over my LAN. i have no problems printing to it if i'm using windows, but "for some reason" PrinterDrake isn't finding the printer. i've been reading a bunch of samba howto's and mans, but i'm not sure where to start. i've tried manually installing the printer to no avail.

btw, the win and linux box workgroup names are different. i can mount and access my win machine's shared files from linux using LinNeighborhood. however, the printer doesn't show up in LinNeighborhood; it needs to show up in LinNeighborhood before i can print to it, right?

does anyone know how i should go about printing to the smb printer? or of a simple howto or troubleshooting guide that can help me?

again, i emphasize !
 
Old 10-05-2003, 12:22 AM   #2
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Have you used mandrake control center/hardware/printer to "install" this printer? If so, does it autodetect it when you tell it that the printer is windows/smb?

ps: checked your website (strongshock.com), the top-most graphic is only showing it's lower half (probably a hard-coded height in the img tag?), I'm using Firebird 0.6.1, thought you should know...

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Old 10-05-2003, 01:27 AM   #3
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i'm not 100% sure, but i thought mandrake control center/hardware/printer is PrinterDrake. it won't find my printer, even if i tell it to autodetect an smb/windows printer. it does show the linux pdf-generator, but not my actual printer on my xp box.

to add to this info, i forgot to mention that the linux pdf-generator does show up under LinNeighborhood linux laptop.

[edit: thanks for the heads-up on my webpage. the banner height tag is hard-coded. it works fine on most commercial browsers, but must be causing errors on your Firebird. i wrote that site with MSFP, aka: POS-4-n00bauthors. it's an ugly "try using all the effects in PS7" effort anyways; you're not missing anything.]

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Old 10-05-2003, 01:51 AM   #4
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Yes, printerdrake is the app in question, and of course, that would have been too easy anyway...

Since, at least some of the XP box's smb shares show up in linneighborhood, I've got to point you to the sharing setup for this printer in XP, perhaps putting it in the same workgroup would help, I've been sharing a printer via smb for quite a while and it's always been in the same workgroup.

Also, my experience with printerdrake and smb printers has been that it likes to get an ip address fed to it, try that.

ps: re your site:
if by "commercial browsers" you mean IE, you should be aware that mozilla and mozilla-based browsers (like Firebird) are at the forefront of standards compliance. IE is not terribly compliant, for whatever reasons. As far as I'm concerned, if a page doesn't pass this: http://validator.w3.org , then it's not valid, and thus not as accessible to any non-IE users, be they linux/bsd/mac/unix, which I would think would be a large percentage of people on this site . Truly, msfp does not generate valid pages very often, you may want to try Mozilla's composer.

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Old 10-05-2003, 02:35 AM   #5
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thanks akaBeaVis. lol, i told you msfp was a pos (i knew itm hehe). with mozilla browser, i see what you mean. hopefully i can find an easy way to validate my site with mozilla (or gl6, i have that too but i'm still learning it). i'm not looking forward to sifting through all the code or cutting and pasting. POS msfp, i hate fp now!

also, i thought about the workgroup before and tried editing my smb.conf to match my win workgroup, but it didn't work. linneighborhood still showed MDKGROUP, so i changed the samba config back to ward off future errors. i'll try changing my xp machines to MDKGROUP & post my results.

thanks again.

Last edited by strongshock; 10-05-2003 at 02:36 AM.
 
Old 10-05-2003, 02:57 AM   #6
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So, staying up late are we?

Don't feel bad, I gotta tell you, my site's been up for almost 4 years now and I too initially fell right into Front Page's IE-centric trap. The first time I hit my site with something besides IE, I almost blew chunks. I think it was Konqueror on Mandrake at that time. Wow, everything looked out of whack, that's when I discovered the W3 site and began to bring things into compliance with the published standards. What's really funny is that if your site looks good in Konqueror, or Mozilla/Firebird/Galeon, then it also looks good in IE, but not the other way around.

What's also really funny is that my own site is almost entirely a documentary of my experiences with linux these days, and has been for quite a while now, and last month it got more hits/traffic than the preceding 12, mostly from 2 Linux HowTo's I put up with no graphics, no flash, no glitz, no style sheet, just plain-jane html, you know what that tells me? It's the content that counts.

Anyway, we were trying to share your printer via smb...
 
Old 10-05-2003, 03:05 AM   #7
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thanks again, got it working by changing the xp worgroups to match linux's.

[edit: just saw your post... i've been staying up late regularly since my baby came along. i know what you mean about content, and my site is certainly random. i got my first webserver working 2weeks ago, and simply combined a bunch of 2MB personal sites i had on isp and university servers, then added a massive amount of media to endulge in the freedom of unlimited storage.]

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