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Old 09-20-2005, 07:51 PM   #1
greg collins
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Question easy connect not easy in suse


Hello I'm brand new to Linux I just installed suse 7.2 on second partition I'm trying to install the easy connect gprs program I travel around the country investigating bank fraud and I just use GPRS for a modem on a Motorola V-180.
I'm just trying to find my way around Linux at first it was kind of exiting but the exitement turned to frustration when I realized I couldn't figure out how to do anything other than open a few programs which look pretty nice by the way.I downloaded the Gprs easy connect program and put it on cd I transfered the program to the desktop and went to install it ,after I realized that clicking on it wouldn't do anything I extracted the file to home directory and I tried to install it their (dont laugh to hard).I got a long list of errors perhaps the most obvious one was you must be in root to install.I figured out what root is and I can get to the installer in yast and them I'm lost ,got to change the install source media and typed in what I thought was the right directory and no dice.My error message also states I need perl compiler,pppd program,perl tk modul,perl lwp module,
perl uri modul,and wget program.I seem to have the wget program and it says it is installed.Also it says I need to write to usr directory I assume I need to extract the gprs file to usr but I don't know how.I have Windows experience and a little
Mac and I'm clueless here in suse 7.2 pro took a couple hours to figure out how to adjust sceen resolution with the sax2 my hardware all seems to be working except as far as I know the system doesn't reconize modem in linux.I have no idea how to get these perl programs from a cd or floppy installed assuming I can find and download the correct versions.Also I must downoad the install packages in Windows fat or ntfs as far as I know the file should remain intact.
Thanks in advance .







 
Old 09-20-2005, 08:13 PM   #2
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Well unless your hardware is seriously ancient, then I'd bin the 7.2, because thats also ancient i.e. it's probably no longer supported as the current version is 9.3, with 10.0 on the horizon.

You'll probably have more success in getting the connection working with that.
 
Old 09-20-2005, 09:21 PM   #3
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Thanks for the advice Big John yes my equipment is ancient a few PIII
500 - 733 mhx machines I do have an AMD 3100 with Nvidia G-force 64 mb video card and a P4 3.0 with ATI 9200 but for whatever mysterious reason neither one works well with software based modem I get very slow if any internet connetion with the GPRS modem and they are very unstable( I don't even bother with the mapquest site on those machines).For some strange reason with the Motorola modem the P3 440 bx/zx machines rock the house and I can download new internet pages in near ethernet speed just a few seconds.The software set up's are often identical so its definitely the processor/motherbord/chipset combo doing it..Any ways even with tons of av,spyare etc. and all security measures my Windows machines keep getting hacked getting sick and tired of reinstalling windows and thought I would give Linux a try I did wonder if this software was incompatible with the version of Linux I'm trying but my Linux experience started late last night .I know this is not a Window's forum at this point I only understand DLL's, EXE and terms like that I feel like I have landed in an alien world and I have to scramble in my new Linux world before my oxygen and food runs out,but I don't know were to look for supplies.I'm thinking of trying a pentium M setup or the new dual processor pentium but strapped for cash and would like to give this 7.2 Linux a try although I could go to the ethernet and download a newer version of
Linux is there a version you would recomend for a linux idiot I have seen red hat lindows,knoppix,etc and I have seen some free downloads but I don't know which to try and which would work out for this GPRS setup and a network to Windows
I'm very pleased with how easy it is to boot to either system and pleased that I can read pdf's ,bmps etc.and that the ati rage self installed along with the ethernet card and the monitor I really had no idea what to expect.It seems very strange not knowing how to do even a basic thing like install a program or adjust a sceen resolution on a computer I have put several hundred registry entries into.I really appreciate the prompt and honest response to a newbie,thank you.
 
Old 09-20-2005, 09:25 PM   #4
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Hope this helps;
http://tips.linux.com/tips/05/08/25/...tid=100&tid=47
 
Old 09-21-2005, 12:12 AM   #5
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Thanks again for the prompt response went to that site you suggested and I wasn't able to get usefull info on how to install step by step this could be a lot of fun to learn but I really need a rock solid os right now. A national team of lawers were waiting for some info the last time my AMD 3100 machine decided to have an apparent hard drive failure which was probably boot sector virus and some really nasty trojans ate my registry while a news crew from Netherlands was waiting for my reply,and now my storming and I dont't know why 500 mhz PIII
machine with xp home is acting crazy repeating dots keep multiplying in blankspaces I really need to get this linux 7.2 working ,get another version of Linux or get couple more copies of Windows and keep making back up's of my files and programs.Are the newer versions of linux ready to run out of the box or can I resolve this perl issue without learning to be a real programmer in a few hours.I have perl in my distribution but I'm not sure if its the whole program or just a small part its listed under programing and tools all I really need for the computer to do for right now I get e-mails and store files and make cds,I can scan and print and do all the other things offline.Realistically for a newbie can I do that.Every time a really important legal or political developement occurs relating to banking fraud my machines which go online get trashed.Another time a different machine got filled up with repeating 6's.I know I will get hacked again and again but
as I understand it virus cant attach to unix programing code because it has no place to attach virus code to.Specifically how do I transfer a program from a cd which has been downloaded under windows and transfered to cd or is that just plain to difficult for me right now given my knowledge level.Like I said this seems like it could be a lot of fun and it would be neat to make my own programs and things like compile a program but right now I just can't get into that.Lets say I download the perl and get it installed will this version of linux run with the gprsec program?I can work out all the other things like printers scanners etc later I just need gprs and browser for now.Thanks for the freindly atmosphere here this seems like a community I'd like to join.
 
Old 09-21-2005, 07:43 AM   #6
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Well the latest version of SuSE, would, I should think, run on the system that you mention. Unless you've only got a tiny amount of ram installed I can't see a problem "per se".

If you have a net connection (preferably something fastish), then you can go to the "download linux" section on the right and get the latest version of one of them - though you should remember that, say something like mandriva download is usually 3 cd's worth so it can take a while, but then again, it's only costing you the bandwidth.

As long as you have access to CDRW facilities, you can usually get instrucitons from the net on burning the ISO to disc. The only caveat being that if you are doing this with windows, it's prudent to get an "md5sum" checking app as well, get that installed, then download the ISO of whatever, and the md5sum file for each disc. Then before you burn, fire up the md5sum checking app to get the md5sum number from the ISO download, and then compare the number from the md5sum file that you got from the download mirror - the numbers should be identical, which, if they are then that confirms that the main ISO has been downloaded cleanly i.e. uncorrupted - a single figure difference can cause the distro not to install correctly or not at all.

Get the md5sum app from here, then get the latest SuSE from here.

None of this is difficult or hard particularly, but linux isn't windows, and it takes a while to get used to the differences - the learning curve can be quite steep, but it's certainly not insurmountable, and with a distro like SuSE it's reasonably straight forward once you get your head round it. You might want to have a read here as theres lots of SuSE specific info.

regards

John
 
Old 09-21-2005, 11:45 AM   #7
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Thanks so much for your prompt and honest response Big John.I noticed my version has built in support for the Nokia ,and a newer version of linux will be more flexible and have more peripheral support.All this loging in as root stuff and running and installing as root has me a little confused and frustrated at first I was baffled as to what the point is since I was already on the system but now I understand its like having administrative priviledges ,or something along those lines.
 
Old 10-11-2005, 10:57 PM   #8
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Hello There

Well im going to start this with saying im a complete newbie to linux, my first linux contact wass with Knoppix 3.4 Live Cd a couple months ago, and well i just love it so when i wass using Knoppix i got to see that it incluided a GPRS/UMTS Connection App and that wass cool because i could connect to the net
like in Windows, so to keep testing linux i wiped my Hd and installed SuSe 9.2 and surprise surprise it didnt have an GPRS connection app so....have me here searching for something, when i found GPRS Easy Connect well that wass cool i thought my problems where gone, but well here is when being a newbie at something sucks, i dont know how to install the Aplication......So im stuck over here, and to make it worse i cant configure the Samba correctly and i cant acces the LAN Internet access either, So guys if you think you can give me a hand at this lil problem it would be gladly accepted
 
Old 10-12-2005, 04:59 AM   #9
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Read this:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/...g_c/mwgovr.htm
How do you connect?
 
Old 11-07-2005, 01:50 AM   #10
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Greg Collins, I was successful in getting GPRS modem installed in MAC with Ross Barkmans and thought I would give Linux one more try went from SuSe 7.2 to red hat 8.0 its appears from a newbie standpoint I went totally in the wrong direction it much more difficult to navigate and understand couldn't partiton for dual boot ,find windows files,find which packages are installed,etc which I could in SuSe out of the box, apologies to red hat fans.

To the main point RED hat 8.0 has usb 2.0 support out of the box and it recognizes my moto v330 as a modem so its two steps back and one forward I did hack to read windows, downloaded GPRS easy connect and transfered the files and am having a bear of a time trying to install.Tried for a couple hours because I didn't want to waste your nice folks time but I would like to dual boot linux because I'm getting hacked like crazy. Doing bank fraud research 30 Ag's are after the criminal I'm taking down he uses computers to commit crimes so I'm outgunned there.

I got more error messages than will fit in post but I tried following the install commands logged as root with the file on desktop in tar form.When I click on tar file it opens the installer and I can move to desktop and open files one by one but it will not install to usr and will not install when using the command in root .I kind of assumed the tarball knew where to go.
I may try the knoppix distribution or if anyone else knows another distribution set up for GPRS that would be useful knowledge as well.I just feel I'm missing some simple step although I used the sledge hammer method to get gprs into Mac I felt I was doing everything right so I just kept repeating the procedure and one time it just went right in.It just doesn't seem like it could really be that difficult to install a program in Linux it seems that just one simple step is missing.

kppp lists the correct modem type that correlates to the hardware mgr. description but when I query the modem I get a couple different responses which are negative forgot to write them down.I was wondering if the wvdial program would work better but I'm not sure it will go in any easier than gprs easy connect .Sorry for the trouble I realize I'm probably asking questions that seem simple to a Linux user but I'm lost and would like to give Linux a try for secure files and to avoid hacking/virus attacks although I'm not sure no offfense intended that open source is the best solution if the hackers know much more than me,and are familiar with Linux.

One word of warning to George Bush fans you may not want to help me if you don't want to see him connected to bank fraud.

P.s in SuSe you can log right out of Linux into windows Red hat requires reboot is there a simple hack to add Dos to session log?
 
Old 01-12-2006, 08:32 AM   #11
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Connecting with Suse.

Run at least Suse 9.3 or 10.
I run the later one beacuse its faster starup and shutdown.
Get it free at opensuse.org

I used Both Suse 9.3 and Ubuntu 5.04 and my UMTS/WCDMA/3G phone works fine.

I tried both LG U81xx and Sony Ericsson Z800.
I know it works fine with a Motorola A1000.
(These phones are for Scandinavia, but the difference is minor.

When you plug your phone in you should se something like

Found LG U81XX
Serial number 35469524923264

When typing dmesg in comandprompt.

#dmesg

When I used KPPP and did "Add modem" in Yast then i could choose
"LG U81xx" from list of available modems.

Punch in number to call *99# (this is a generic number witch doesn't call your ISP it just tells your phone to connect to data service.

Set it up to receive ipaddress and DNS automatically.

You should now be able to connect to the internet with KPP.
 
Old 03-30-2006, 08:31 PM   #12
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Hello Delorian

I meant to respond immediately and give you some reliable configs but I wiped the H.D.and lost configs .but your are differnt anyways. I'm currently running 9.3 and it will work with the ATZ and and AT QO V1...... init strings I have set up moto v 180 and 330 on all versions of Windows after 98 and Mac OS 9 and X and several versions of Linux it seems the only stable operation is with moto software (windows only) and on Knoppix.Right now having problem getting kppp to recognize modem and responding to modem query even though I'm using modem through Kinternet The same phone I'm using worked on the same computer with the same distribution on both Kiternet and kppp I'm completly baffled as to why the modem is reconized and works through kinternet but I get no modem respose in kppp it claims dev ttyACMO does not exist and unable to create modem lock file
I set kppp permision to root didn't help.

The ATE1 1st init and AT+CGDONT=1,"IP","internet2.voicestream.com" and answer string /d modem commands worked great for T-Mobile U.S. and very reliable and resonably fast IF you will look at the connect log with a generic script and watch response time it will be very slow and at one point says don't know what to do.Not good and not reliable.

I have attempted to get V 180 and 330 to work with SuSe 10 and no go even when updating 9.3 that works.Modem log shows disco right away perhaps kernal conflict but so much is different between 10 and 9.3 I'm lost .Also the PPP/peers and CHat script make a big difference I wish someone had expertise to write configs step by step and this was more of a science than guessing game.Does someone know of book or website which is comprehensive?This is very nice setup for laptop fairly functional even for destop.
 
  


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