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I just realized that after my screen went crazy I did not try to reboot, duh!
I am back into a fully functioning GUI, not sure what caused it to go nuts but I am good again. I am in synaptic and there are several versions of nvidia-glx, 96, 173, 180, 185. Could you suggest a version I should try?
Pleased to hear your nvidia card is working after all.
there are several versions of nvidia ... Could you suggest a version I should try?
I'd like to, by consulting http://www.nvidia.com ... Download drivers, but the site isn't working at the moment - "Sorry. Please try later".
You can search that site for the right driver for your card. If it's an "old" card then there's a link on their site for "Legacy drivers" [They work fine, but probably aren't developed any further].
Remember that it is essential to blacklist the nouveau module if the nvidia module is what you'd like to use. Otherwise nouveau is loaded by ununtu, and nvidia will not work because nouveau has control of your nvidia hardware, and won't let go of it.
To do this, edit (as root) the file /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and add the following two lines somewhere near the start of the file (not that this matters, but it's easier to find the line if you want to undo the change later).
# Blacklist the nouveau module so the nvidia one can be used instead
When things are not going smoothly, I try to keep things as simple as possible: So I would recommend that you disable the on-board video (in the BIOS setup) when you are trying to get the nvidia card working. Later, if you want multiple monitors, you could try re-enabling it. Try to stick to the KISS principle.
Off topic: Please don't get angry, and don't give up.
See this as a puzzle - it is solvable, and you get a nice feeling when you have made it all work.
Make a backup copy of xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log now that you have a functioning GUI. They may be needed later for comparison if you have problems, because of (or even independent of) some attempt to make the GUI even better.
What does "full functioning" mean?
More important, what do you want improved from the current state? Just enabling a second monitor? Or increasing resolution? Or what?
The xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log files are also the places to look in order to make an informed nonrandom step toward whatever improvement you want.
Could I enable one of the Nvidia packages in synaptic and blacklist the nouveau module?
You mean it is somewhat working now using the nouveau driver?
Ubuntu has changed their set up and they don't generate a xorg.conf file automatically now.
Sorry about the misinformation. I was noticing that same thing myself. I'm not sure what, if anything, is used in place of display part of xorg.conf for newer versions of Linux that don't seem to use that.
There are a few files in /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d that seem to have replaced the input aspects of xorg.conf. But I don't know what replaces the display aspects.
Still /var/log/Xorg.0.log ought to be there and ought to give useful info. If things are working at all, I'd look there for details before changing anything.
Could I enable one of the Nvidia packages in synaptic and blacklist the nouveau module?
That may be the way forward. You're convincing me this stuff is harder than it was in earlier versions. How to know which nvidia package to choose? How exactly to install/enable it? How to undo it if it goes wrong?
Distribution: Ubuntu 11.4,DD-WRT micro plus ssh,lfs-6.6,Fedora 15,Fedora 16
I would recommend an nvidia card, I use an Ubuntu distribution with the nvidia proprietary drivers from the restricted repository
I used to have a fedora box with dual head with two video cards (an ATi and a matrox, one agp, one pci, now THAT was 'fun' to configure but wasn't actually near as painful as I expected it to be surprisingly, however modern dual head cards have made multi video cards for dual head all but irrelevant nowadays);
point being dual head is nowhere near as hard as it initially seems
then again with ATI cards I've had nothing but problems getting them to do what I wanted with Linux (e.g. a dell laptop I had with an s-video out, the s-video out was useless since the ATI proprietary drivers didn't support the model of video card my laptop had, and configuring (gatos?) isn't stragihtforward and I dont' even know if gatos suported my card, but the Nvidia cards i had almost always worked properly (except one i had that was damaged)
I enabled each nvidia-glx package one by one, each time switch video to auto and each time I had severe kernel warnings and things ground to a halt. I went into the restricted hardware menu and the most current version was already activated, assumingly from my time in synaptic.
Surely I am close to screwed now, no? Whichever ever way it turns out Simon, tredegar, frieza and especially johnsfine, you've all put in time with this and it is really appreciated. It is a shame this medium is so faceless and distant, I wish I could shake your hands
I have started the memory test now and I will report back.
One thing I am wondering about. I am consistently getting these memory errors with the video switched to auto but not when switched to onboard.
I repair spectrometers for a living and do circuit analysis every week to every month. I have become quite humble in the process, the more I know, the more I know what I don't know. Even fairly simple circuits can have complex problems. When tackling these Linux issues, is one always "good-to-go" if the chipset is supported? Are there other circuit factors that can make this sort of thing more painful?
Please confirm that you are trying to install ubuntu on a Dell Dimension 2350, and make it use the NVIDIA card you have installed.
If so, I have done some searching and there are many reported problems with this particular combination. See here: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopi...36629&p=225483
and scroll down to the post by Jules Delespy. (I didn't read all his links, feel free to do so )
A search on Dell Dimension 2350 nvidia will give you many more links. I hope you know that there's a better search engine for all things linux at http://www.google.com/linux It saves typing "linux" into every search, and it's at the top of my bookmarks.
I haven't found the solution for you yet, but there will be one as some people, sometimes, seem to have linux running on a 2350 without using the on-board video. So far, they haven't said how though.
Off topic rant: Even here on LQ it surprises me when people post "Problem Solved", but they don't think to say how it was solved. Even when prompted, they cannot be be bothered to answer - "It's working now, what do I care?". The reply would be "We helped you find the solution, the least you can do is post it for others with the same problem."
/Off topic rant
Anyway, I think it is safe for you to stop running memtest86 now, as the problem seems to lie between your BIOS, on-board video and linux.
** Is your nvidia card in an AGP slot, or a PCI slot? Perhaps it matters.
When tackling these Linux issues, is one always "good-to-go" if the chipset is supported?
Generally, yes. Unless you have the "Dell BIOS from Hell", of course.
Are there other circuit factors that can make this sort of thing more painful?
Yes, but from your job you will already know them: Flaky PSU. Dust causing overheating / intermittent shorts or open circuits. Etc.
I stopped buying Dell in the 90's.
I have my local PC shop (run by nice indian people) build me a system to my specs. I could certainly do it myself (I started in hardware), but at my age, I cannot be bothered. It costs very little. They don't put windows on it. If it doesn't work with linux (they always have) I can take it back, and they say they'll swap stuff around until it does. I'm happy, they are happy, and I'm supporting my local economy.
We seem to be narrowing your problem down. Always a good thing.