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Old 10-25-2013, 12:18 PM   #16
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A small list FREE as in freedom to try: http://distrowatch.com/search.php?category=Live+Medium Or, in 6 months you could just pay more for less!?.
 
Old 10-25-2013, 12:45 PM   #17
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Old 10-25-2013, 01:25 PM   #18
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Oh well, I tried again. Installed Linux 15 this time and seemed to go ok but when I went to boot it I got the "grub" msg again.
I couldnt even put a Ghost back on so had to reinstall XP.
I think that is the end of my adventure with Linux. I hoped it would be reasonably straightforward to install but to me it isnt.
Anyhow thanks for all your advice.
To install Iinux it is straight forward as much as it is with Windwos with distros such as mint, ubuntu, fedora.

If you can tell us the error your getting we might be able to help. It sounds like it may be a grub issue.
 
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Old 10-26-2013, 12:59 PM   #19
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Don't stop now, everyone of the above helpers has gone through some of the same problems. Just think of what you have learned
on your trip with linux. In 1 month after you get it installed if you use it on a regular basis you will think of XP for what it is, An old outdated distro with all sorts of security issues. No more update this update that, Viruses, keyloggers, etc.
Since it seems that you are very proficient at installing Xp why don't you install Mint and use the full disk, no dual boot and see if that works? If that works you should be able to get on the internet and do what ever you want. If everything works then you probably have a good burn to your cd/dvd.
If that works format the hdd and make it clean. Partician the hdd to 3 different particians using ntfs as the first 1/2 or whatever size you want. Next make 2 more particians Linux Swap at about 2 x memory. Next make a ext4 partician with the remainder, Make sure it is bootable with the / in the partician line.
Now install XP and try it again, If you did not put the / in the ext4 partician line it will not boot.
 
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:13 PM   #20
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Old 10-27-2013, 03:16 PM   #21
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I would love to be able to ditch Windows but it isnt that simple. Installing Mint and using that exclusively sounds great in theory, but for me anyway it isnt.
I know XP is probably rubbish compared to Linux, I know it is riddled with security leaks, bugs etc, but I know it back to front, inside out. I have used it since it was released and have stuck with it, i am not interested in Vista, 7, 8 etc, i am happy with XP.
Silly reason to stick with XP I know is that I love Itunes, again I am sure lots of people on here will say it sucks, maybe it does, but it suits me and I have playlists etc going back many years and until Apple make a Linux friendly ITunes that is a big stumbling block for me.
Again it I want to download a programme in XP I go to the site, click a button and there it is, Linux seems a lot more complicated, even more so as there seems to be so many different versions of Linux, all of which work differently. All versions of XP work the same and however badly that is at least I know how it works.
I have run Mint from a live CD and it is just so different to Windows, it is completely foreign to me, everything I liked about how I had set up my desktop was gone.
I know in 6 months support for XP will end and I will have to do something but I just do not know what.
I thought moving over to Linux would be relatively straighforward but wow it isnt. I thank you all for your words of help and encouragement but I am more confused than ever about what I am going to do??
 
Old 10-27-2013, 04:08 PM   #22
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Linux Mint and Ubuntu are generally easy to install, but sometimes for some reason they don't, It can be due to hardware support, it might be rare and need a custom kernel.

Can you tell us any errors you received?
Specs of your PC (processor, mobo, video cards, etc) more detail the better.

Everyone on this forum has used Linux for a good while and I'm sure we can all help you to a resolution.

I remember years ago, about 2008 I started with Linux and was lost, had no clue how to install or didn't really understand much about it, I guess I was a windows man, but the more I learned about Linux, the more I started to hate Windows. Only reason I still have windwos is due to games mostly, but a couple Windows Only software.

So don't give up. Instead of trying to install Linux side by side with windows, Try downloading VirtualBox (https://www.virtualbox.org/) or VMware. I find Virtualbox far easier.

This will allow you to install Mint inside of windows and then you can play with it, but your processor has to support virtualization.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 05:59 PM   #23
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You have at least three options.

1. Install VirtualBox on xp as suggested above. Just do an online search for 'download and install VirtualBox on xp'. You can then run Mint inside xp and still have both. You will have to read up a little on how to install on VBox but it isn't that difficult.

2. Use Mint from the LiveCD to learn. You've got six months until microsoft drops support for it.

3. Give up.
 
Old 10-27-2013, 06:24 PM   #24
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3. Give up.
He was taking about windows on option 3
 
Old 10-27-2013, 06:50 PM   #25
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Old 10-28-2013, 04:18 AM   #26
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Well I have had some sort of a breakthrough.
I spend a couple of hours playing about with Mint on a live CD and found out I could get the desktop the way I like it, so there is hope.
I play a lot of online poker so it is essential that I can get their sites to run. I have seen reports of a programme called Wine and also one called Playonlinux which I think is based on Wine.
I have had a look on the Wine site and of course there seems to be thousands of different Wines for different Linux distros but I cant find my Linux on it, I am using Mint 13 Mate 32 bit version, does anyone know which Wine I need, or do I just need PlayonLinux ?
Also can anyone recommend a different desktop to try instead of Mate, i am not unhappy with it but just want to experiment, and is it just a case of downloading and installing them ?
Anyhow I now know I could live with Linux Mint, in fact I quite like it but it all comes down to if I can find that enough of the programmes I like work on Linux I will use it.
By the way I have found a sort of alternative to ITunes in Rhythmbox, does anyone know of another media player that is even more like ITunes? I wonder does Media Monkey work on Linux, I'll have to give it a try?
O have gone from 90% on staying with Windows to 50-50 so i guess thats progress.
Thanks for all your help, I guess I will have even more stupid questions to ask in the days ahead, thanks for all your patient and help
 
Old 10-28-2013, 05:04 AM   #27
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Cool Most hardcore-gamers((?)\lazy\gullible(?)) still dual boot, freedom ain't easy...

My /usr/games folder has 1,063 files, 1 sub-folder, without Steam++. For web players you just need a current browser like downloading Firefox it can run right out of the folder it unpacks from (for flash check link...) Clementine is a good music player I like it more than I've ever liked iTunes. For other desktops I like KDEs flexibility but have many. I think it's more fun tinkering with Linux than paying for winblows.

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Old 10-28-2013, 07:05 AM   #28
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Well I have had some sort of a breakthrough.
I spend a couple of hours playing about with Mint on a live CD and found out I could get the desktop the way I like it, so there is hope.
I play a lot of online poker so it is essential that I can get their sites to run. I have seen reports of a programme called Wine and also one called Playonlinux which I think is based on Wine.
I have had a look on the Wine site and of course there seems to be thousands of different Wines for different Linux distros but I cant find my Linux on it, I am using Mint 13 Mate 32 bit version, does anyone know which Wine I need, or do I just need PlayonLinux ?
Also can anyone recommend a different desktop to try instead of Mate, i am not unhappy with it but just want to experiment, and is it just a case of downloading and installing them ?
Anyhow I now know I could live with Linux Mint, in fact I quite like it but it all comes down to if I can find that enough of the programmes I like work on Linux I will use it.
By the way I have found a sort of alternative to ITunes in Rhythmbox, does anyone know of another media player that is even more like ITunes? I wonder does Media Monkey work on Linux, I'll have to give it a try?
O have gone from 90% on staying with Windows to 50-50 so i guess thats progress.
Thanks for all your help, I guess I will have even more stupid questions to ask in the days ahead, thanks for all your patient and help
If you want to install a program in Linux, you do it through the 'software centre' rather than downloading things off the internet and clicking on them. Open your software centre, search 'wine', and click the install button.

KDE is a nice Desktop that's similar to Windows XP/7. LXDE is like XP but with fewer features, very light and fast but you might find it confusing since some things aren't obvious.

I find Banshee to be a good media player.
 
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:38 AM   #29
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I'm glad your hope is returned and your stepping into the light .

As for wine at WineHQ, they don't build it for Mint, but they build it for the latest Ubuntu. You can use the Ubuntu repository from WineHQ to install wine on Mint. Mint always has a version of wine in it's own repositories which is 1.4 I think.

Any Package for Ubuntu will install on Mint.

Play on Linux is just a Fronend of wine that allows you to install programs.
 
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Old 10-28-2013, 12:17 PM   #30
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Can also run $ʍopuıʍ and its softwares in VMs with software like Virtualbox.
 
  


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