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Old 06-15-2013, 02:28 PM   #1
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Smile Dual booting with a laptop and external hard drive.


I have an old 200GB LaCie external hard drive, There's nothing wrong with it other than it collects dust. It seemed a good idea to use it as part of a dual boot system with my Fujitsu Siemens AMILO li 3710 laptop that has Linux Mint Debian Edition (32bit) with the Cinnamon desktop, (very nice it is too) installed on it. I had decided that openSUSE 12.3 KDE was the ideal candidate as it adds a nice variety. I used GParted live to make a partition table: 512MiB /boot, 8GB swap, 20GB /(root) and the rest as /home. That was easy enough. I then booted up open SUSE using a Live USB thumb drive and proceeded with installation. All was smooth until I got to mounting the partitions I made earlier. I had to first unmount the partitions for LMDE before I could apply mount points for openSUSE. I thought that this was a little odd, a bit of a chicken and the egg scenario but what the heck, I'll go with the flow. I got the partitions mounted and formated to Ext4 and hit install. It was that Rubicon moment. The LaCie kicked in and the installation went as expected. When asked where to load the Grub boot loader, I loaded it to the 512MiB boot sector of the LaCie I created instead of the MBR. When I rebooted the system, the laptop went straight to boot loader recovery. I'd expected something like this to happen, I thought I'd recover it using a live CD/DVD. Unfortunately this didn't work because the /(root) partition was not mounted. The chicken and egg scenario. I then thought I'd reinstall LMDE over the existing data without the LaCie attached to restore the mount points, That sort of worked but unfortunately I didn't understand the long chain of letters and numbers that were attached to each of the partitions. My very limited knowledge of the command line now failed me. Anyway I threw my toys out of the pram and decided the best course of action was to nuke the hard drive, reinstall and then restore the backup I had made the previous evening. It may not have been the most elegant solution to that part of the problem but it worked a charm and saved a huge amount of time struggling with a more conventional solution. I got all my data back for LMDE and the boot loader was working. The problem I'm left with is, I have a LaCie that according to GParted, has an installation on it I can't access. Also, I can see the drives in my home menu in Mint. All the data is there and in the partitions I allocated. If I try to boot up the system with the LaCie attached, I don't get anything other than a blinking curser; that's it. We already know that the computer will boot from USB because I installed openSUSE from a live USB stick. So that's not the problem. Reboot without the the LaCie and the laptop starts and boots normally. Can any of you good people help me get the laptop and the LaCie working together. If I give up now, I'd just feel I've used up a lot of time and effort and learned next to nothing in the process. Please bear in mind I'm very new to this, so please keep explanations and directions as simple as possible Thanks!!

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Old 06-15-2013, 06:15 PM   #2
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It you deliberately make you post(s) hard to read, people won't bother. Remember it's you that's asking for help.

Boot the Mint system and plug in the Lacie, then go here, and download the script. It's actually a tar.gz these days, so run this command before the "sudo ..." step in the instructions.
Code:
 tar -xvzf bootinfoscript-061.tar.gz
Post the RESULTS.txt.
 
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Old 06-15-2013, 06:53 PM   #3
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It you deliberately make you post(s) hard to read, people won't bother. Remember it's you that's asking for help.

Boot the Mint system and plug in the Lacie, then go here, and download the script. It's actually a tar.gz these days, so run this command before the "sudo ..." step in the instructions.
Code:
 tar -xvzf bootinfoscript-061.tar.gz
Post the RESULTS.txt.
Thanks for getting back to me so quickly, I much appreciate it. I extracted the file as per instructions and opened it in the terminal. This is what I got.

andyinmokum@debimint-li-3710 ~ $ sudo ~/Downloads/bootinfoscript
[sudo] password for andyinmokum:
sudo: /home/andyinmokum/Downloads/bootinfoscript: command not found
andyinmokum@debimint-li-3710 ~ $

I have a feeling that this is not what you are looking for. I've run it a few times and the result is same every time. I hope this helps. Thanks again.
 
Old 06-15-2013, 07:00 PM   #4
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Ok, let's see what actually there.
Code:
ls ~/Downloads/boo*
 
Old 06-15-2013, 07:04 PM   #5
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Ok, let's see what actually there.
Code:
ls ~/Downloads/boo*
Sorry for sounding stupid but do I enter this into the terminal?
 
Old 06-15-2013, 07:09 PM   #6
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Yes - I'm thinking the extract didn't work because you weren't in the Downloads directory.
 
Old 06-15-2013, 07:10 PM   #7
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Ok, let's see what actually there.
Code:
ls ~/Downloads/boo*
Sorry for sounding stupid but do I enter this into the terminal?

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Old 06-15-2013, 07:12 PM   #8
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Yes - I'm thinking the extract didn't work because you weren't in the Downloads directory.
Okay this is what I got:

andyinmokum@debimint-li-3710 ~ $ sudo ls ~/Downloads/boo*
[sudo] password for andyinmokum:
ls: cannot access /home/andyinmokum/Downloads/boo*: No such file or directory
andyinmokum@debimint-li-3710 ~ $
 
Old 06-15-2013, 07:32 PM   #9
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O.k. let's find where they went (from a terminal again)
Code:
find ~/ -iname boot*
 
Old 06-15-2013, 07:35 PM   #10
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O.k. let's find where they went (from a terminal again)
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find ~/ -iname boot*
This what it returned:

andyinmokum@debimint-li-3710 ~ $ sudo find ~/ -iname boot*
/home/andyinmokum/Documents/Boot Info Script
/home/andyinmokum/Documents/Boot Info Script/bootinfoscript-061.tar.gz
/home/andyinmokum/Documents/Boot Info Script/bootinfoscript
andyinmokum@debimint-li-3710 ~ $

Hi syg00, it is getting late here in Amsterdam. I need to get some sleep. Many thanks for your help so far. May we pick it up again when my eyes are not falling out of my head? I hope the problem can be resolved. I wish you a good night.

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Old 06-15-2013, 08:16 PM   #11
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If you're able to boot LMDE try while booted in LMDE run
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sudo update-grub
 
Old 06-15-2013, 09:24 PM   #12
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Explains why it ain't working (different location) - try it as
Code:
sudo ~/Documents/Boot Info Script/bootinfoscript
@EDDY1 suggestion might be a quick solution, but run the script anyway so we can see the entire boot environment.
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it is getting late here in Amsterdam
- I just had to go out for the dogs morning walk ... such is world-wide support ...

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Old 06-16-2013, 12:54 AM   #13
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Explains why it ain't working (different location) - try it as
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sudo ~/Documents/Boot Info Script/bootinfoscript
@EDDY1 suggestion might be a quick solution, but run the script anyway so we can see the entire boot environment. - I just had to go out for the dogs morning walk ... such is world-wide support ...
Good morning or Goedemorgen. Now I feel suitable refreshed and I'm armed with a big pot of coffee. I ran the script suggested by EDDY1 and the one you suggested. This was the result:

andyinmokum@debimint-li-3710 ~ $ sudo update-grub
[sudo] password for andyinmokum:
Generating grub.cfg ...
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-686-pae
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-686-pae
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-486
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-486
Found openSUSE 12.3 (i586) on /dev/sdb5
done
andyinmokum@debimint-li-3710 ~ $ sudo ~/Documents/Boot Info Script/bootinfoscript
sudo: /home/andyinmokum/Documents/Boot: command not found
andyinmokum@debimint-li-3710 ~ $

I going to reboot the system and see what happens.

....okay that has been done with the LaCie attached. The result was a blank screen with the cursor blinking in the top left hand corner. Rebooted without the LaCie attached and Mint's boot loader screen appeared as expected.

Last edited by AndyInMokum; 06-16-2013 at 01:07 AM. Reason: Report following a reboot.
 
Old 06-16-2013, 01:43 AM   #14
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the bootinfo sript is great for diagnosing problems but seeing that it's a new installation, I would just remove the partitions that were created with gparted on failed install & let Opensuse do the partitioning, but not install a bootloader. Then I would just run sudo update-grub from LMDE & reboot.
 
Old 06-16-2013, 01:44 AM   #15
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Do this from a terminal
Code:
cd Documents/Boot
then hit the <Tab> key. The shell should complete the directory name. If nothing happens, try hitting the <Tab> key twice in quick succession.
Then try
Code:
./bootinfoscript

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