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Old 12-07-2013, 12:20 PM   #1
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Downloading openSuSE 13.1, ISO question


I am trying to download, burn to DVD, and install openSuSE 13.1. I will explain my situation. I have a dual boot Windows Vista/openSuSE 12.1 system. I don't have internet at home. I have had consistent trouble connecting to the internet using SuSE 12.1. The only place I have been able to connect to the internet with SuSE 12.1 is on an unsecure wlan in the local library. The download speed is 5Mbs, so is impossible to download a 4G file at that speed.

I temporarily had access to a cable modem and downloaded the openSuSE 13.1 iso, using my Windows Vista OS. I think I checked the "BitTorrent" option before I downloaded the ISO. I then transferred the ISO to my 12.1 openSuSE OS via a memory stick. My two questions are:

1. Can I follow the Linux instructions for burning the ISO (the ISO was downloaded in Windows, using BitTorrent)? I started issuing gpg commands (according to the suse instructions) to verify the signature, but I got errors.

2. If you transfer an ISO between computers, will it corrupt the ISO image?
 
Old 12-07-2013, 01:54 PM   #2
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Can I follow the Linux instructions for burning the ISO (the ISO was downloaded in Windows, using BitTorrent)?
Yes, how you download the ISO is not relevant.
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I started issuing gpg commands (according to the suse instructions) to verify the signature, but I got errors.
We can only help with that if you tell us the exact command you used and which errors you got.
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If you transfer an ISO between computers, will it corrupt the ISO image?
No, it shouldn't, but bad things can happen. This is why md5 checksums are used, so you can make sure that the ISO is not corrupted.
 
Old 12-07-2013, 02:03 PM   #3
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I think I checked the "BitTorrent" option
you do NOT KNOW if you used bittorrent client program to download it ????????

that 100 kb ".torrent" file is used bit-torrent to grab the 4.7 gig image

if you used a torrent client to download the 4.7 gig ISO there is no need to use the cheksum
the bit-torrent client did that already
during the 30 min to 3 day download

now you WILL want to run the second check of the burned image on the dvd
BEFORE you install ( well at the time of install )
there is an install option to check the dvd
 
Old 12-07-2013, 02:36 PM   #4
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John VV, yes I cannot remember if I used bittorrent or direct link. I should have taken notes when I did it.

I am following the steps from the SuSE download help page (https://en.opensuse.org/SDBownload_help). I will print some of the command outputs below.

~> gpg --recv-keys 3DBDC284
gpg: requesting key 3DBDC284 from hkp server keys.gnupg.net
gpgkeys: HTTP fetch error 7: Failed to connect to 2a01:4f8:150:7142::2: Network is unreachable
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
gpg: Total number processed: 0

~> md5sum -c openSUSE-13.1-DVD-x86_64.iso (terminal hangs up until you <CTRL> C, then the following output):
md5sum: openSUSE-13.1-DVD-x86_64.iso: no properly formatted MD5 checksum lines found.

~> gpg --fingerprint "openSUSE Project Signing Key <opensuse@opensuse.org>"
gpg: error reading key: No public key

~> gpg -a openSUSE-13.1-DVD-x86_64.iso.asc
gpg: can't open `openSUSE-13.1-DVD-x86_64.iso.asc'
 
Old 12-07-2013, 03:33 PM   #5
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the torrent file requires you to import the torrent file into a torrent client
then use the torrent client to download the iso


it is NOT a browser download using firefox ( well the tiny 100 kb .torrent file is )


from the above post
"~> md5sum -c openSUSE-13.1-DVD-x86_64.iso "

that "~> " is /home/YourUserName
so where is the iso image?
the terminal has to be in the SAME folder as the iso

so is the iso in your Home folder ?
or in the DEFAULT http download location of "/home/YourUserName/Downloads"

or
in the torrent client download folder ( whatever you set that as ) ?
 
Old 12-07-2013, 05:41 PM   #6
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John VV, Thanks for the response.

As far as bittorrent, I clicked that box as a selection here: http://software.opensuse.org/131/en

that "~> " is /home/YourUserName
so where is the iso image?

It is in the /home/YourUserName/Downloads directory. (The default download location).

Some of my questions may be premature. I am going to do some reading on the md5sum commands. I think I'm missing something.
 
Old 12-07-2013, 06:11 PM   #7
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Well if you downloaded your iso on a windows computer I dont hink the iso file will be in /home/user/Downloads
It will probably be in C:/users/Downloads or C:/users/Bittorrent/Downloads.

To make sure look on the settings of your torrent client and see where is set up to download its files.
 
Old 12-07-2013, 07:31 PM   #8
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he said he was using the unsupported opensuse 12.1
- it went end of life in may
and registered here two years ago

12.2 still has 39 days of support
and 12.3 has 282 days of support

so i am assumming that with using opensuse12.1 for a year and a half that using the terminal should be a already learned skill
and that the iso and the terminal need to all be in the same folder .

it makes no differance if it is windows , mac,linux,or bsd
you need to be in the folder to do something in that folder


also if what you downloaded was this
" openSUSE-13.1-DVD-x86_64.iso.torrent"
the 341.0 Kb torrent file
that IS NOT the 4.7 gig iso

you must use a torrent client to download the 4.7 gig iso USING the .torrent file

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Old 12-07-2013, 09:26 PM   #9
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Three thoughts...

You might download the Network installation version of openSUSE 13.1 and see if it is better at making an Internet connection than your older version of SUSE. A Network installation needs only to download and install those packages that are chosen for your installation, not the full range of packages that are in the large installation DVD, so downloading SUSE as you install it might be better for you, and the Network CD itself is only 284MB to download.

If download capacity is a problem and you still need to download the installation DVD, I may remind you that after you start a torrent you can shut down your system at any time without corrupting the file. Torrent traffic resumes after turn you computer back on unless you remove the torrent. This might allow you to take those 4.7GB of data in chunks of time and bandwidth as they are available to you.

Were I to consider anyone having problems of hardware configuration, or with installing devices or making connections, my first thought would always be to suggest installing the latest version of the distribution of ones choice. Progress is made and with linux, time is on our side; it gets better and better.

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Old 12-07-2013, 10:24 PM   #10
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you can also buy a boxed "shrink wrapped" dvd
http://en.opensuse.org/Buy_openSUSE
 
Old 12-08-2013, 04:39 AM   #11
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Maybe buy, but cheaper...

The openSUSE 13.1 box set is too expensive for my tastes, but the Internet will tell you where to buy a DVD of the same content that you find as free download on the SUSE website, that is if you can't get hold of it any another way.

I don't quite understand; do you have the downloaded ISO file or did you merely download the torrent seed file that opened when you clicked download on the SUSE web page? If you were using your SUSE and not Vista, you should have been prompted with an offer to open the seed file with a client program. For SUSE with KDE, it is "ktorrent".

When I downloaded openSUSE 13.1, I, for some reason, couldn't get a downloaded DVD ISO file that, after burning, completed a Media Check when booted. I had no similar problem with the Network version or with a download of the DVD of the new Linux Mint, but didn't bother to run an md5sum to find out if the DVD was in fact good enough. Good Luck.
 
Old 12-08-2013, 08:36 AM   #12
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Many thanks for taking the time to respond. I will try and answer your questions.

1. As of now, I have the downloaded openSuSE 13.1 ISO file (openSUSE-13.1-DVD-x86_64.iso) in the folder /home/mark/Downloads in my openSuSE 12.1 OS. The size of the file is 4.7G.

2. I initially downloaded this ISO from the openSuSE site while using my Windows Vista OS.

3. The way I downloaded it was I went to this site http://software.opensuse.org/131/en and I think I selected BitTorrent, but I could have selected Directlink (does this matter though, if I now have the ISO file in the folder /home/mark/Downloads?). I didn’t see any files with “.iso.torrent” suffixes.

4. The reason I did not download it in the OpenSuSE 12.1 OS is that I have trouble connecting to the internet in OpenSuSE 12.1 on every network I have tried, with the exception of the wireless unsecured network at my local library. The download speed at the library is only 5Mbs, so it would be impossible to download the 4.7G file there.

5. After downloading the ISO in Windows Vista, I copied it to a memory stick, rebooted my computer, opened openSuSE 12.1, and copied the ISO file into the folder /home/mark/Downloads.

6. Now the md5sum and gpg commands are not working, so I am trying to figure those out before I figure out how to burn the ISO (see my posts above).

7. @thorkelljar “You might download the Network installation version of openSUSE 13.1 and see if it is better at making an Internet connection than your older version of SUSE. A Network installation needs only to download and install those packages that are chosen for your installation, not the full range of packages that are in the large installation DVD, so downloading SUSE as you install it might be better for you, and the Network CD itself is only 284MB to download.” Good advice, I will investigate this.

8. Other things that I have done is purchase the OpenSuSE 13.1 DVD through osdisk.com, and PuppyLinux to try out. These DVDs’ are about 7 or 8 dollars a piece. I am waiting for these to come in the mail.

9. I love playing with Linux, but the internet connection with OpenSuSE is so confounding. I literally spend hours, days, and weeks reconfiguring, pinging, changing encryption types, etc. I will get so frustrated that I will literally not mess with Linux for a year because of it. It was a major achievement just to get on the internet at the library in my town. I am looking for a distro where I don’t have to play with internet connectivity so much.

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Old 12-08-2013, 11:20 AM   #13
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Progress! Yesterday I decided to download a Puppy Lucid ISO at the local library (recall the slow download speed mentioned in my above posting). I used the wget command to download the ISO image. Well I did not figure out how to read the md5 checksum, but I burned the image to a CD this morning using the utility in the openSuSE 12.1 GENOME.

I rebooted and guess what? The OS loaded flawlessly, and I was on the internet within minutes!!! I am surfing the web from a Puppy Linux OS at a wireless hotspot that I was never able to connect to in openSuSE 12.1!!! Man, I am happy! Thanks to all the folks who answered my questions and helped me to work through this.

Now I am checking out Puppy Lucid. It is fast, just like they said it is!
 
Old 12-08-2013, 02:26 PM   #14
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i have red about problems with vista downloading files bigger than 4 gig if you save it to the windows vista user Desktop

the files are corrupt .
 
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Old 12-08-2013, 05:24 PM   #15
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Thank you, John VV. That makes perfect sense. That would explain why I was unable to run the md5sum command.

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