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Old 08-03-2008, 09:20 PM   #16
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...I need it only to get some free patterns from a site...
These must be some special patterns. What's the name of this site? I'd like to take a look, there might be an alternative way of getting what you seek.
 
Old 08-04-2008, 05:35 AM   #17
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OK, I have installed it and I have made you a little guide. Just click here.
Download as a free user. Right-click the PCStitch_Install_guide.tgz and select Extract Here. This will extract a PCStitch_install folder. Open it and double-click on the PCStitch_install_steps.
I now see that I have made a typo (PCStich) in the guide.D'oh! Nothing that would render the thing useless, though. I may reupload if I find the time but you'll have to live with it for now.

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Old 08-04-2008, 07:13 AM   #18
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Hi,

Sorry to jump into the discussion - I guess cross stitch on Linux is too much of a novelty for us geeks to resist!

I think we are all worried that you are not clear how Wine works - and if you are new to Linux then it is a bit strange at first. You obviously already understand that PCs can run with different operating systems: like Windows or Linux and that programs are written to run within an operating system. The best analogy I can come up with is a railway. The railway company buys some land and that is like the PC itself (the hardware) then it puts tracks and stations and bridges down on the land and that is like the operating system. The problem is that they must choose a gauge for the track (how far apart the rails are) - say 4 foot 6 inches (that is for the UK, I don't know what the US standard gauge is!). This means that any trains (the programs, like PCStitch) must be made with wheels 4 foot 6 inches apart or they will not work on that railway.

If we imagine that Windows is like the 4ft 6 gauge and Linux is 5 feet and PCStitch is made with wheels 4ft 6 apart then we have a problem.

Wine is a special program called an Emulator (Wine means Windows Emulator) it is like a big train with wheels 5ft apart so that it runs on Linux. However, its wagons have tracks bolted on their floors that are 4ft 6in wide so that you can put a train with 4ft 6in wheels inside the big Wine wagons.

A Windows program runs inside the Wine program.

It is like putting the PCStitch program or train with its 4ft 6in wheels inside the Wine Train with its 5ft wheels and the Wine train then runs on the Linux 5 foot tracks.

Sorry about that - I teach IT at school!

So how to use this new understanding! You need to download the installer program from the PCStitch site - as jay73 says - select the XP version. It does not matter where you save it but good practice would be in your home directory. This is not "My Documents" or anything windows-ish like that - they do not really exist on a Linux machine. It ought to be a directory inside /home. But as I said it does not matter. Just save it somewhere do not try to run it at this stage.

Then go to the directory you saved it in and you should be able to type the equivalent of this:

Fred tim # wine PCStitch_Inst.exe

This will start Wine up and run the installer program within Wine. Effectively you are loading the PCStitch train inside the Wine train and closing the doors so that PCStitch thinks it is now running on a Windows PC.

At this point you should start to get pop-up messages that look like Windows messages and ask you to click Next etc.

One of these asks about where to install the program and I think you may have gone wrong here. In Wine it is always wise to accept the defaults. I think you changed the install destination to MyDocuments - this does not exist on a Linux PC so Wine goes wrong. Just keep clicking Next and let Wine create a fictional (but consistent) environment for PCStitch. The only exception to this rule is where it asks about icons in the system tray etc. Just accept the icon on the desktop - that exists. The system tray and the rest are Windows things that do not exist on the Linux PC.

Do not try to use the automatic update process - their updater thinks it is running inside Windows and will not work.

This worked for me - I have posted the screenshots on Picasa at:

http://picasaweb.google.com/tp11235/PCStitchScreenShots

Hope this helps.

Tim.
 
Old 08-04-2008, 06:23 PM   #19
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A nice newbie friendly howto. Just three corrections though...
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Wine is a special program called an Emulator
Wine is definately not an emulator.
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(Wine means Windows Emulator)
Wine means = Wine Is Not an Emulator.
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The system tray and the rest are Windows things that do not exist on the Linux PC.
The system tray does exist in GNU/Linux. The fake windows environment can't access it.

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Old 08-04-2008, 07:40 PM   #20
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A nice newbie friendly howto. Just three corrections though...Wine is definately not an emulator.Wine means = Wine Is Not an Emulator.The system tray does exist in GNU/Linux. The fake windows environment can't access it.
Pwned..

I personally hate using Wine or any other software to run Windows programs, but some programs, just only are available in Windows formats, and thus for some programs, Wine is a good option...

IGF
 
Old 08-04-2008, 08:04 PM   #21
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Pwned..

I personally hate using Wine or any other software to run Windows programs, but some programs, just only are available in Windows formats, and thus for some programs, Wine is a good option...

IGF
I personally hate using winblows.

I have some (shall we say) mature friends who are not computer savvy. With Wine I can, troubleshoot their installation problems without having to run the full operating system.

If I can't install it using Wine then it's tough luck!

Wine is a remarkable achievement and fully deserved its award at OSCON.
 
Old 08-05-2008, 06:44 AM   #22
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Thanks for that - I'll read up more on Wine . I have almost never used it myself: I run a web server with a bit of Open Office so have little need for it. However, I have been hugely impressed with it ever since I got Adobe Photoshop 6.0 working with it!

Tim
 
Old 08-10-2008, 02:48 PM   #23
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tp11235

Tim, thank you so much for trying to help. Your help has made it somewhat easier, but it still does not work for me! I have followed the pictures you sent, in the 5th picture, you show a pop up window that lets you save PCStitch to a directory, that window does not pop up for me. Also, no matter what I do I still get the error message, even when I take the defaults. Maybe, it still has something to do with wine. I don't know where to go from here.

Thanks so much, Nancy
 
Old 08-11-2008, 11:09 AM   #24
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The fifth window should appear when you click on "start downloading" so it is completely unrelated to wine. Maybe you just need to change a few things in your firefox browser. Just start firefox and look under Edit > Preferences. At the bottom of the dialog box, there is an option to switch download modes:
> save to: etc.
> always ask me where to save to
If you use the second of those, you should get the window that you saw in the fifth screen the next time you try to download. If you select the "Save to" option, the installer will be downloaded to the folder that is specified (and that you can change by clickin on the "browse" button). But it really doesn't matter where you save to, as long as you can find the downloaded file so you can start wine by double-clicking it.

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Old 08-12-2008, 08:25 PM   #25
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Tim, I am able to do everything in you pictures, but I keep getting that same error message, right at the very end of the install. Thanks again for your help. If you think of anything, please let me know. I am now determined to get it one way or the other!!

Thanks Nancy
 
Old 08-12-2008, 08:41 PM   #26
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When I click "browse" inside the path, I had originally typed MyDocuments, and it is still there. I wonder if there is any way to get that out? That I think is what has to happen in order to run it. Because even now that I take the defaults, it still exists.

Thanks guys, for all your help.
Nancy
 
Old 08-12-2008, 10:07 PM   #27
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Just replace myDocuments with
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C:\Program Files\PCStitch 7
 
Old 08-13-2008, 11:22 AM   #28
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Nexus, It isn't that easy. The default is C:\ProgramFiles\PCStitch\7, and that's what I have tried a thousand times. Some way I need to get "MyDocuments" out of the browse window, and wipe it out completely. Once that is done maybe it will work, but I have tried to wipe it out, to no avail. When I changed the file, I typed in "MyDocuments", the program is still recognizing it.

Thanks, Nancy
 
Old 08-13-2008, 01:12 PM   #29
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Bixie, try as I might, I cannot reproduce the problem(s) you are having. Where the program gets installed to shouldn't make any difference.

A few quick questions.

1. Are you still gettting this error?
Code:
Feature: Program files
Component: Flosses
File: C:\windows\profiles\nancy\MyDocuments\Flosses
2. Have you managed to complete an error free install (even though it's to MyDocuments)?

3. Did you type in MyDocuments or click on the folder My Documents?

Last edited by {BBI}Nexus{BBI}; 08-13-2008 at 01:14 PM. Reason: Edited for clarity
 
Old 08-13-2008, 11:09 PM   #30
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Nexus, I have never gotten a complete install. As I said, I clicked on "MyDocuments" when I first tried the install, but never after that. I take all the defaults, but "MyDocuments" is still in the path within the "browse" area, and I thought maybe that might be the problem. I just don"t know how to wipe it completely out of there. It's my understanding that Linux does not recognize "MyDocuments" because it is such a Windows thing.
You can not imagine how much time I have spent on WineHQ and the Ubuntu site, trying to learn and fix the problem. And, yes I keep getting the same error message even after I take the defaults. I am determined to get it some way. I have spent too much time, not to!!! I know I have wine installed properly, Tim sent me some pictures he set up for me on picasaweb, as you can see from his post. I can get all the way thru them as he showed me, even in the terminal, but I keep getting that same error message. Thanks so much for your help, one way or the other, we can figure this out!!

Thanks, Nancy
 
  


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