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Old 03-31-2015, 04:30 PM   #16
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@joe_2000 One way around this is to save and send in RTF format.
Hi, thanks for this hint. Until know I typically resolved to sending in .doc, but obviously RTF would be the more open and thus preferable format. But I guess for spreadsheets there is no such format alternative...

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Old 04-02-2015, 02:19 AM   #17
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The main problems I have with opening ODT files in word are pictures not formatting properly i.e changing positions across the page when opening the document in Word. I have also heard of problems with bullets and other objects such as arrows.

Saving as a .doc file in Libre Office should have better compatibility with Word.
RTF files offer the best compatibility in my experience but the files are much larger than .doc or .odt files.

Compatibility has improved over the past year but there are still issues that are unpredictable.
Overall it's best to avoid using Libre Office if you have to use large files with complex formatting regularly.

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Old 04-02-2015, 09:06 AM   #18
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When I send odf files to people in my personal environment I typically get "I can't open your file, can you resend it".
Both libre and open office have the option to "save-as" in ms office compatible formats. IN FACT YOU CAN MAKE IT THE DEFAULT FOR NEW DOCUMENTS. (Tools -->> Options in lo/oo).

Some application features of office 2010 aren't available in libre/open office (under linux and windows). eg: two columns side by side in pivot tables (called as data pilot in open/libre). Otherwise all work OK

The single most important reason for difference in display is that the default setup for new documents doesn't seem to be saved even in msoffice compatible files (.xls, doc, ppt ..) created with open/libre office.

Otherwise for most routine work, I would say that even though you cant get THE MICROSOFT EXEs to work directly in linux, by using open/libre office, you can create files that can be read in windows.

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Old 04-02-2015, 11:05 AM   #19
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Simple answer - no
LibreOffice can technically read/write MS Office files, but I wouldn't say they're even remotely compatible.
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I agree that, if you must use MSOffice in your professional life, you need to have MSOffice.
From experience I consider both statements extremely true. I still have to see the first document containing pictures, bullets, numbering and/or tables which look the same on both platforms. Even worse, when it seems that the document on the other platform can be modified to resemble the original, at some point during editing (mostly after two days work or so) it will appear that something is hopelessly f*cked up, rendering your document useless. Like a table which suddenly appears twice and can't be deleted, or paragraph 1.1.1.1.1.1.1 appearing when it should have been paragraph 7.2.

To my utter surprise, Impress files *can* be opened in PowerPoint and even resemble the original. I haven't tried co-editing. But then again, Impress is a piece of crap which doesn't even understand the normal rules about editing graphic objects, and destructs a document completely when autosaving.

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Old 04-02-2015, 01:34 PM   #20
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Both libre and open office have the option to "save-as" in ms office compatible formats. IN FACT YOU CAN MAKE IT THE DEFAULT FOR NEW DOCUMENTS. (Tools -->> Options in lo/oo).
Fully aware of that. It's a matter of principles. I definitely will not set a proprietary format as a default on my computer if there are open alternatives. And it seems ridiculous to accept a proprietary format as lowest common denominator, only because the most widely used tool is unable (or should I say unwilling) to read files provided in a widely accepted open standard properly.

So sometimes I tend to still just send my stuff in open format, just to remind people of that format being available, and in the hope that if enough users perceive it as a shortcoming in MS products that they can't read odf / ods properly, MS will eventually change that. But maybe that's just me being too naive and/or idealistic :-)
 
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Old 04-04-2015, 03:52 PM   #21
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Perhaps people should switch from the expensive moffice suite and adopt open standards, then we could all communicate more freely. By the way joe, there is a spreadsheet equivalent called calc but probably does n't use the same abstruse format as moffice so ultimately incompatible?

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Old 04-04-2015, 06:55 PM   #22
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Hello - You could try Plan and Text maker from Softmaker. These are completely compatable with both of your products. They are very easy to use and free.

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Old 04-04-2015, 07:17 PM   #23
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NOW if only the US of A would stand up to MS and act like and adult

GOOD GOING UK!!!!!!
"Microsoft will adopt open document standards following government battle"
http://www.itproportal.com/2015/03/3...rnment-battle/
 
Old 04-05-2015, 12:59 PM   #24
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Perhaps people should switch from the expensive moffice suite and adopt open standards, then we could all communicate more freely. By the way joe, there is a spreadsheet equivalent called calc but probably does n't use the same abstruse format as moffice so ultimately incompatible?

Fred.
It's compatible for simple spreadsheets, but as soon as formulas and/or macros get more complex they tend to break in conversion in my experience...
 
Old 04-05-2015, 01:20 PM   #25
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When I send odf files to people in my personal environment I typically get "I can't open your file, can you resend it".
This is odd considering MS Office actually can open ODF formats. However I usually just save files as doc or docx when sending them to anyone else.

ALSO, you may find it useful to change your default save format to avoid this issue.

Tools>Options>Load/Save>General

Document type .. Always save as ..
 
  


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