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Old 10-21-2005, 03:18 AM   #1
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Distro for a old laptop


I have an old P1 200 with 96 Mb's of RAM. Normally I myself would not have a problem installing Slackware with the XFCE interface (which is the one I prefer to use, I'm not crazy about window managers.) The real problem is my hard drive is only 800 Mb.

Right now I'm running windows 98se, so I do now that it is capable of running a half way decent GUI interface.

My Question is can anybody recommend a decent distribution for this laptop. And if it is something outdated (because as well as modern distributions run on old computer they are still hard drive hogs) can you provide a link to download it.

Thanks
 
Old 10-21-2005, 08:54 AM   #2
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I would go debian for that (using apt-get to get only what you need). I'm running it on an old P1 laptop myself.

But if your familiar with slackware, why not use that? I tought it had a package management software allowing you to install binairy? Or do you always need to compile everything with slackware?
 
Old 10-21-2005, 12:35 PM   #3
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If you trim down what Slack installs, you probably should be able to get onto 800MB. You can probably get by with the a,n and x folders for a really bare-bones GUI system and then add packages as you need.
 
Old 10-21-2005, 12:36 PM   #4
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try zenwalk linux. It is a stripped down version of slackware. It is a 400MB download, but you can trim down things you would not neeed, like a abiword, gnumeric, gimp, gxine etc. I would suggest you drop xfce as well and get hold of an fvwm installable. FVWM is quite light and configurable too. good luck
 
Old 10-21-2005, 01:56 PM   #5
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48 MB

You could go for Damn Small Linux or DSL, which I downloaded, burned to an ISO and used.
You can offcourse add the desired applications by apt-get.
 
Old 10-24-2005, 11:57 AM   #6
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I tried out damn small linux. It fit on the hard drive and everything worked (eventually) but it doesn't really feel like a real linux distribution. After scouring the website they even claim that there support to act like a hard drive distribution is very minimal and it will stay that way.

I tried bareboning slackware and zenwalk. Zenwalk was somewhat successful except the fact that I never got my wireless card to work. Now I would never blame the distribution for that but even so they do say that optimally 1.1 gigs is minimal.

I've also tried Vector 5.1 but I couldn't even install that due to the fact that they won't let you barebone that distribution. I would really dislike using a live cd because I prefer to keep my cdrom drive open and my settings saved.

If anybody has any other suggestions I would appreciate it. I would hate to go back to windows 98se.
 
Old 10-24-2005, 12:15 PM   #7
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Zipslack fits on a 100MB zip disk, you could start with that and add to it. It's based on the 2.2 kernel:
http://slackware.com/zipslack/
 
Old 10-24-2005, 01:20 PM   #8
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In doing some digging around in the past, I came across a couple people that did a stripped down Slack.

http://www.seanm.ca/eden/minslack.html
http://www.geocities.com/potato.geo/minslack.html

The second one is currently over their bandwidth limit.

I was going to suggest Vector, but since you've already looked at that, I guess that's not any help. How about some of the micro linux distros?

ÁVex says it fits in 76 Meg of a Flash drive, but I didn't see anything about a GUI.

There's also The Linux Portal: Distributions and this list of distros that have small distros. Don't know if any of these will fit your needs, but I bookmarked them for some reason.

F_M
 
Old 10-25-2005, 01:31 AM   #9
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Not to be a pain in the rearend but to continue this discussion. I checked out a lot of the mini distros and they are too small.

I guess I was really wondering if there were any distribution that could replace windows 98se (of course the goal of linux is not to replace windows so please take that comment lightly). A configuration of get a gui up and running with a 200 - 300 mb install. I don't even care if it's old if you can find the iso's. For instance would redhat 7.1 or the slackware equivalent of that (haven't been using linux long enough to know the slackware equivalent but I would realy like to stay away from source based distros and dependency hell, that leaves slackware, anyway...) work? Would older packages that still do the trick (with some minor upgrades like firefox, gaim, etc... you know, small programs that I can install the latest of in 98) work for me? Or are those old distro's hard drive hungary too?

If anybody has any suggestions I would appreciate it? Thanks.

P.S. if you do recommend a distro like Redhat 7.1, not that I want you to waste your time looking but if you already know, if you could link me to the iso's. That would be great.
 
Old 10-25-2005, 03:30 AM   #10
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Damn Small worked like lightning on my P I with 32MB RAM, so it should work like magic on yours! I've found that Vector is very difficult to actually get working on laptops; either the mouse or screen configuration will be wrong.

Beatrix Linux (based on Ubuntu) runs GNOME 2.8, Firefox and OpenOffice on any computer with more than 64MB RAM; so you may want to try that out.
 
Old 10-25-2005, 07:09 AM   #11
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Quote:
Originally posted by nymusicman
For instance would redhat 7.1 or the slackware equivalent of that (haven't been using linux long enough to know the slackware equivalent but I would realy like to stay away from source based distros and dependency hell, that leaves slackware, anyway...) work?
Fro the sizes you are refering to, I would forget about forget about Red Hat. It was always very complete, so it took lots of place.
 
Old 10-25-2005, 08:10 AM   #12
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Quote:
I tried bareboning slackware and zenwalk.
I'm curious, did bareboning Slackware not work?
 
Old 10-25-2005, 07:00 PM   #13
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Bareboning Slackware worked to an extent. By the time I got everything I needed installed just to get a gui running I had little room for anything decent.

See on windows I have room to install firefox, gaim, thunderbird and privoxy, my motorola wireless card software, and pysol 4.2 and still I have my disk on 50 % used at 349 mb. Now I usually set up a 100mb swap space for linux so that should still leave 249 mb. I don't even have 200 mb left after setting up the base linux and xfce with X. That doesn't include a browser IM and any games whatsoever. Now that was Zenwalk. As far as slackware's base files there is even more.

Also when I installed zenwalk and slackware I was using wireless-tools-27 along with ndiswrapper 1.4. And for some reason I could not connect to any network with my wireless card. (Motorola WN825G)

Now the one good thing about DSL is that my wireless card worked like a charm. (Only problem there is not being familiar at all with debian based systems I cannot figure out what versions of wireless-tools and ndiswrapper DSL uses).

Now I would use DSL but it just feels very unconfigurable (once again it could just be my lack of knowledge on debian based systems) and very uncomfortable.

Now when I was talking about Redhat 7.1 what I meant was if there were a distribution that was meant to replace Windows 98se instead of a distro meant to replace XP it would be nice to get my hands on that.

Usually as packages upgrade they get bigger. So if I used a distro with all old packages it should work. For example if Xorg 6 is about is about 50 mb, Xfree 2 is probably about 20 mb. That kind of difference is what I was referring when talking about Redhat 7.

So if anybody has a distro like that (meant to replace windows 95 or 98 with a decent gui, even if it's old, and room to install extra software I want). Not that I'm trying to compare linux to windows but in all reality it can be. Windows XP takes about a gig to install. Todays modern linux distro stripped down with X and GUI takes about gig to install. Windows really is just a stripped down linux because linux actually comes with the software you need. Like you'll never see Microsoft Office on the same disk as Windows XP.

So my theory is if windows 98 takes 250 mb to install with gui there should be a linux distro that does to. Even if it is a version of linux that was made in 98.
 
Old 10-25-2005, 09:40 PM   #14
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Why don't you try damn small linux?
Or puppy linux, that should do the trick and they are quite stable and the amount of tools is actually shocking.

The minislack distro is another option but I don't know how much disc space it takes
 
Old 10-26-2005, 03:13 AM   #15
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I would say wait for DSL 2.0 (now it is 2.0 RC3 I think)
or
http://www.vectorlinux.com/
Small Slackware-based distribution, needs only 175 MB of hardisk, 16 MB RAM; uses
Xfree86 3.3.5, and glibc 2.0

The operating system occupies less than 950 megs of hard drive space when fully installed and has a full set of preconfigured programs to handle all of your basic computing needs. Earlier versions of Vector use just 450 MB when installed.


Let us know if you try vector, I am curious to see what you would think
 
  


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