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Old 10-30-2015, 04:22 PM   #1
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Display problem on Jessie


I use an intel i3 chip with integrated graphics. My monitor is Dell S2009W. Wheezy runs without any problems but Jessie runs for a varying period and then the display is corrupted (overlaid with rows and columns of oblongs and this crashes Xorg completely.

Wheezy does not recognize the monitor and uses a generic driver. Jessie does recognize it and I suspect, though I have been told otherwise, that Jessie is installing the wrong driver.

I tried installing with an Nvidia card in place but the system installs but won't boot. I expected that it would use the nouveau driver but apparently it didn't.

If it is OK to stick the card into a running system I know how to install the Nvidia drivers and update the Nvidia config file. Alternatively, how do I install the nouveau drivers. I am not a gamer so nouveau should be adequate.

I have just installed Jessie again using the minimal downloaded CD and the system is up to date.

Incidentally I have just installed a new hard drive so I could dual boot. Windows (how I hate that programme) installs with the Nvidia card in place. That's about its only virtue. However, I am updating the rules for a group and though I can edit them in OpenOffice and save them as a .doc the formatting does not necessarily survive opening in Word. For that matter a .doc file formatting does not necessarily survive opening on a different computer even using the same version of Word.

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Old 10-31-2015, 12:39 AM   #2
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can you tell me how did you install debian?
Did you install from cd or dvd or livecd?
can you give me the name of iso file?
 
Old 10-31-2015, 01:45 AM   #3
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I downloaded the CD version which I think starts the installation and then completes it from the internet. The name on the download file is debian-8.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso and I inserted that in the cd reader and worked from there.
 
Old 10-31-2015, 01:48 AM   #4
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Sorry I lost it at that point and have had to start again. Jessie has been running most of the day which is longer than it usually does. Possibly the latest version has fixed the problem. Here;s hoping.
 
Old 10-31-2015, 01:49 AM   #5
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@AlarcWood
Perhaps go to GRUB at boot and edit the kernel line (beins with 'linux') by appending 'nomodeset' to it, then hitting F10 will help.
Also, OP may want to look here regarding nvidia drivers and here for the script smxi (of course, a root passwd will have to be set in order to use it).

@rubankumars -- netinstall
 
Old 10-31-2015, 10:50 AM   #6
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Did you install gnome or kde or lxde or xfce after installing debian?

Last edited by rubankumars; 10-31-2015 at 10:51 AM. Reason: my mistake
 
Old 10-31-2015, 04:06 PM   #7
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I let the installer install Gnome. I hoped I could change it to gnome classic when installed but apparently that option is no longer available. I dislike the new Gnome which seems unnecessarily complicated. I thought I might try to change to Cinnamon when I have time and can work out how. I have the Ubuntu instructions for changing the desktop but they didn't appear to work and I will have to do more reading.

The email from the forum mentions another reply which I haven't found on the thread and which says the cd I used will only install a minimal Debian with no gui interface. However it seems to have downloaded the rest from the internet as the display is normal. I have left the machine running and it is still up this morning so the programme may now be OK. I will have to wait and see.

The only thing I have changed is the bios setting. The default is to enable on board graphics if there is no card in the graphics slot. I changed that so I could use the other connection with the graphics card still in place in case I wanted to fiddle with it again. I have now removed it. I still don't know if I could put it back into a running machine and try to install nouveau or Nvidia. I know how to install Nvidia but not nouveau.
 
Old 10-31-2015, 04:31 PM   #8
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$ lsmod

Can help identify what driver is being used. As well as what gets listed in /var/log/Xorg.0.log. And the output of glxinfo after starting X. Although nvidia drivers are woefully lacking on useful details in many of these options. Where every other GPU is a feast of useful information in linux.
 
Old 11-08-2015, 02:00 PM   #9
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I have tried nomodeset but I still crash with the same symptoms only now I also get bursts of a buzz as the screen flickers.

I have been told I am wrong but I still wonder if my Dell S2209W monitor is at fault. Wheezy does not detect the Monitor and uses a generic driver. Jessie does detect it. According to lsmod I am using the i915 driver but I am not very good at interpreting Unix speak and I don't know what some of the entries mean.

I am not a gamer so a fairly modest monitor should do. I know you can't advertise but can anyone suggest an alternative brand monitor that might be worth trying. It runs at 1280x1024 with 0 refresh.

I could go back to Wheezy but would prefer not to and apparently other people can run Jessie on an i3 chip with integrated graphics.

I know how to install Nvidia drivers but not how to install nouveau. I was not able to boot with the Nvidia card in place though I have now set the bios to recognize the i3 even if the card is in and possibly could now get the machine running with the card in.

Another distro is no help as all Debian derivatives have the same problem, also Mint and OpenSuse. Fedora won't install. I haven't tried Mageia.

Sorry to be so dumb.

Alaric
 
Old 11-08-2015, 02:02 PM   #10
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Sorry the monitor is Dell S2009W not 2209.
 
Old 11-18-2015, 04:05 PM   #11
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I have had to re-install Jessie. I haven't added nomodeset to the new install but will do so. It doesn't stop crashes but gives a much longer interval between them. I have added CLUTTER_VBLANK=none to the environment file and will see if that makes any difference.

I note that towards the end of the output from dmesg there is a warning about outdated Bios. it says 'drm Wrong MCH_SSKPD value ox16040307' and suggests updating the Bios. The error may create display problems.

I looked up this message and got a few responses. The first one appeared to be from the kernel forum and was way above my head. There were three queries unanswered and one answer from Ubuntu which recommended updating but sounded a few warnings. They said some manufacturers do not provide adequate instructions. Gigabyte is one of them. The invoice for the custom built machine says I have a GIGABYTE H61M-D2-B3 LGA1155 Intel H61 motherboard. The brief home site when I open the bios with the delete key says something different but doesn't stay long enough for me to memorize it or write it down. On the Internet the gigabyte home site I first looked at had a number of B3 boards but the home site now only does a hard sell for a new gaming board and Nvidia card. Searching by chip is no use as i3 is not mentioned.

When I first got the list of boards, clicking manual only threw up several updates with no help as to which I should use or how. I could follow the Ubuntu instructions 'if willing to incur the risk'. I suppose I can save the present settings and burn them to a disk in case of accidents. It is a good many years since I installed a motherboard and then I had an installation disk and a comprehensive manual.

Incidentally, since first posting, I selected Cinnamon as a desktop with the new install. I dislike the latest version of Gnome which seems to me to be very clumsy. Also incidentally, the latest Jessie installation selects a new version of LibreOffice which in my view is not an improvement. As usual, spellcheck is disabled and Synaptic no longer has an English version of Spellcheck though apt-get finds spellcheck-en-GB and installs it without trouble. This fixes the problem. The extension manager does not include an English spellchecker. Also I no longer have any useful help file for Libre.
 
  


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