Disk Partitioning Differences: Newbie Questions
First off...I want to thank you guys for all the help I've received thus far.
Now, a new question. After all the reading I've been doing lately trying to get FC1 up and running, I've come to understand that partitioning in Linux is a bit different than I'm used to in the Wonderful World of Microsoft. Let me by hypothetical for a moment. Here are the details of the system I'm typing on at the moment: Dell XPS P4 3.0 GHz Hyperthreading Processor 3 Physical Drives: one 120gb Main Drive (c), one 60gb Drive I use for Music (d) and one 120gb Storage Drive (e) SIIG ATA 133 Serial Controller Internal DVD Rom and a separate Internal DVD+R/RW Burner Internal ZIP 250 Drive 1 Gig of RAM ATI Radeon 9800 Pro GPU Soundblaster Audigy 2 Sound Card w/Firewire IEEE1394 USB 2.0 Built-in 10/100 NIC PLUS a Separate Gigabit NIC For the experiment, I want to divide my Main 120 GB Drive into partions for both Windows XP Professional and a Linux Distro (does it matter which at this time?) As I understand it, Linux can READ an NTFS partition at this time but can not WRITE to it. That being said, I'm going to leave a FAT32 Partition in there as well so that leaves me with two...an NTFS Partition for WinXP and a FAT32 partition for shared files between XP and Linux. Now, here's where I'm getting a little confused. What is the difference between the types of Linux Partitions? I've seen reference to several, including ext2, ext3, LinuxSWAP (which seems to speak for itself), XFS and another one that I don't recall at the moment...something like reiserfs(????). How would YOU, the learned ones proceed? What are the major reasons to choose Ext2 over Ext3? What would could I expect using XFS or reiserfs? Should I actually add a LinuxSWAP partition or let the installer do that for me? I've also seen people referring to setting separate partitions for "/", "/home" and "/usr"...would this be to my benifit or is that more advanced than I need to concern myself with at the moment? Also, as a rule...I still apply the RAM x2 for setting swap space in Windows but as I understand it, apparently a Swap Partition of 512MB is enough for Linux...is that correct? As you can see, I have questions and while I will continue to do research on my own here and with the Big G...I thought I'd ask as well. For the Linux Distros I have on hand: Fedora Core 1 Knoppix 3.4 SuSE Personal (Shipped and on it's way) Let the suggestions and recommendations begin. Regards, Paul |
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There are reasons for seperating out your partitions, but i wouldnt worry about it unles syou intend to run web, email, etc, servers. What you really do want to seperate out from the start is your /home partition. Otherwise, everytime you reinstall you will lose all the stored data you've downloaded. If seperated out, all you need to do is not format that partition when you reinstall and create that user again when you've finished. Voila, saved data still intact.
As for the different file systems, use ext3 or reiser. Both will be majorly useful if u crash, if not you'll be fsck'd off after a while. :) |
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My plan is to completely wipe my Main (C) drive, format and reinstall a fresh copy of XP on say a 30 or 40 gig partition. Leave 30 or 40 gig for the Linux Partition and then save the rest for a FAT32 Partion. The actual sizes my differ from that as I haven't exactly figured out what I want or need for each. As I see it, if I rip a DVD to a drive for whatever reason, the seem to run around 6 to 8 gig on a full backup. A 20 gig partition would suffice for me to test it out on both sides and I could get rid of the data as I'm done with it. All my ripped music lives alone on my D drive anyway and I have another 120 gig storage drive so space shouldn't be a problem. I think I'll start the process with the format and reinstall of XP and get it up to speed just enough to connect to the 'Net for questions...then get Linux up and running and work from there. I've already backed up all my data so I sould be fine. Thanks for the suggestions/recommendations. Wish me luck:) Regards, Paul |
So for your fat32 partition are you making it a primary partition, logical or extended? I was planning to make a system similar to yours cause I want to share files between XP and Fedora Core 2 and maybe another distro. Thanks
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Philmie,
It is set up as the Primary DOS partition but NOT made active. If I understand it correctly, making that the active partition would have had the bootloader looking for an operation system there where there was none. Also, a tip I learned the HARD WAY. If you come across the "NTLDR is missing, Press Any Key to Restart" error you may be able to fix it by simply running a Win98 Startup Disk, starting FDISK and setting the C Drive (or whatever drive contains your WinNT, Win2K or WinXP OS) and making it ACTIVE. I tried everything I knew to get back to XP during the meltdown and when I did this...Perfection! Regards, Paul |
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An extended partition in a nutshell is just a container for logical partitions. A method by which one can create more then four partitions (up to 64 for IDE) on a single drive. You can not format or mount an extended partition. With lots of RAM the 2X rule is outdated. The size really depends on the types applications running and what the PC is used for. A high traffic webserver would need more swap as well as a graphics designer or lots of numeric data processing. A normal desktop user running email, web browser and a playing music or a movie would not use much swap if any. I think 512MB for the normal desktop user is sufficient. ext3 is an advanced journalized ext2. Its advangates are you can seemlessly convert an ext2 to ext3 without loosing data. All of the ext2 filesystem utilities will still work with ext3. reiserfs is faster when it comes to lots of small files. jfs is faster when it comes to large files. The adantage of any journalized filesystem is its ability to recover from crashes or losing power faster and better then ext2. If you select the auto partitioning scheme you will have 3 partitions /boot, / and swap. I believe the default filesystem is ext3. |
Thanks guys. I'm all set now.
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to all on this thread; thanks for your input on partitioning. BIG score for linux users! did i need that YES! thanks again! from an old but newbie.
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Well...here I am again.
I just wanted all of you guys to know that I've managed to actually install SuSE 9.1 Personal and get it working (this time). I can browse the Internet (I'm browsing right now:)), I can hear sounds and I can printe. I had problems...the first time I installed I couldn't print or get my soundcard (Creative Audigy 2) to work. I reinstalled and for whatever reason...both work this time around. Again, thanks to all those who have helped and I'm sure I'll be asking for more help soon. I don't want to be just someone who casually uses Linux...I want to KNOW how to use Linux! Regards, Paul |
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