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Old 03-24-2003, 03:56 PM   #1
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different desktops for different apps?


Hi,

I'm aware that KDE and Gnome use different graphics libraries (Qt and GTK). With this in mind, are all X applications also either made to run under only a Qt or a GTK environment, bot not both? I.e., will a Qt application not run in Gnome and a GTK application not run in KDE?

When you install a new application, how do you know which desktop it will run under?

For example, if I want to run Quanta, I have to run KDE. If I want to run Bluefish, I have to run Gnome? What about Coffee Cup HTML editor?

Thanks.
 
Old 03-24-2003, 04:17 PM   #2
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I run KDE and have no problem using GTK apps. The GTK libraries are separate from Gnome and can be installed separately -- KDE has no problem using them to run GTK apps. I assume the same is true, in reverse, for Gnome and Qt apps.
 
Old 03-24-2003, 04:26 PM   #3
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I run XFCE as my window manager and I can run both KDE and Gnome apps in it. You just need to have them installed and permissions to run the executables. Hope this helps.
 
Old 03-24-2003, 05:46 PM   #4
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i use fluxbox but but install gnome and kde libs and app works fine
 
Old 03-24-2003, 05:59 PM   #5
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I only can second what Dave and Texicle said,
and add that running a (as little as it is, like say
ksirtet) KDE program will drag the entire process
of kde inter-process communication and the base
KDE libs into memory... :)

Code:
  PID USER     PRI  NI  SIZE  RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM   TIME COMMAND
 2124 tink      12   0 15416  15M 11488 S     0.0  5.9   0:00 ksirtet
 2126 tink       7   0 10472  10M 10228 S     0.0  4.0   0:00 kdeinit
 2129 tink       9   0 10872  10M 10584 S     0.0  4.2   0:00 kdeinit
 2132 tink       9   0 11244  10M 10884 S     0.0  4.3   0:00 kdeinit
 2134 tink      11   0 12804  12M 12028 S     0.0  4.9   0:00 kdeinit
/me shudders ...

Cheers,
Tink
 
Old 03-25-2003, 07:47 AM   #6
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Thanks for clearing that up. Can anyone explain why I ran across the following advice for editors:

"If you use Gnome, get Bluefish. If you use KDE get Quanta."

This gave me the impression that one app wouldn't run under the other desktop.
 
Old 03-25-2003, 07:54 AM   #7
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Because some silly people persist in believing that it's better to run apps "native" to your desktop.

The idea is that Quanta, being a KDE app, will use the KDE file dialogs, kio, and so on. Bluefish, being GTK/GNOME, won't.

We're currently in the process of trying to standardise all this stuff, so no matter what set of APIs a program is written for, it'll always integrate nicely.

Try both, use the one you like best. Ignore which desktop they were written for. The concept will soon be obsolete anyway
 
Old 03-25-2003, 08:32 AM   #8
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OK, thanks for setting the record straight.
 
  


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