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Old 07-10-2005, 04:01 PM   #16
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Quote:
Originally posted by @ngelot
Debian is (I think) the only Linux-distro where you can install the base-system, and get JUST the base -system.
What about Gentoo, Slackware, and Linux from Scratch?
 
Old 07-11-2005, 03:00 AM   #17
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Re: Progressing

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Originally posted by firersa
Well.

I reinstalled just the basics.

I couldn't get xwindows system to work - "no screen error found", I don't want to bother about that right now!

I installed the apache server and accessed the PC from my windows machine and found the Debian placeholder page....now for me that's exciting.
Hi firersa. Formerly lived in PMB. I don't necessarily agree that Debian is not for newbies. A lot depends on how proficient you are with systems and how quickly you learn and are willing to learn. We all start as newbies and Debian is a cracking system. Really its about learning it and nothing more. Have been using Debian for 3 years and started as total rookie. I run 5 boxes, 4 Sarge and 1 Woody Internet server.
At basics Debian only installs a base system. If you have started with Woody then first thing you need to check is what kernel you have loaded. From the command line as root do uname -r. If it's telling you 2.2.2 then I would suggest you install with the 2.4 kernel as it has much better support for most everything you need. When you have booted the install cd and have the boot prompt press F3 to get the install options but if memory serves me correctly the command is linuxbf24.
The error "no screens found" is normally associated with the incorrect horizontal and vertical sync rates in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4. You need to establish the sync values for the monitor either from the manual or from the manufacturer website. To reconfigure the X-server you need to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and then when you get to the monitor section use the advanced option to set the values.
Because you are using Woody once you get the system running you need to make sure that the lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list are pointing to woody and not stable The stable version is now sarge and it you do an update the system is going to want to download hundreds of megs of updates which would be a problem for you without broadband.
What are your intentions for the system?

Last edited by TigerOC; 07-11-2005 at 03:03 AM.
 
Old 07-11-2005, 03:10 AM   #18
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Latest Release

Hi,

I was p[rogressing nicely with the 2.2.x kernel version. I decided to download the latest stable release iso because the version I was using didn't support usb and plug and play.

On installing the new kernel from a clean system everything goes fine untill where it ejects the CD and says rebooting into your new debian system.......there it just hangs and hangs on 93% installation , so that I have to hard reboot, but the reboot hangs after detecting my DVR card bt8xx 8 channel system.

What is the problem with it not being able to automatically reboot, the earlier kernel version also couldn't reboot automatically, is it perhaps a MB issue..........Intel P4

Regards
Brandon
 
Old 07-11-2005, 03:18 AM   #19
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Removed conexant video card

I removed the conexant dvr card and hard rebooted, this has brought me to the welcome page.
 
Old 07-11-2005, 03:25 AM   #20
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I would suggest unplugging the card and trying to complete the install and come back to that one later. It's likely a driver issue. The only time I have come across the system stalling on boot has been when there have been issues with network card addressing being incorrect.
 
Old 07-11-2005, 11:56 PM   #21
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Progressing

Thanks to everybody who helped.

This is absolutely not as bad or difficult as suggested!

Yes there are many issues I still need to resolve and to learn, but the concepts are easy and straightforward.

I have installed the latest stable base package.
Managed to get xwindow working, fixed the mouse problem I was having
Installed and using mozilla browser
Installed apache webserver, php and mysql server, tested them from a remote machine, and working fine.
Learned the basics of the shell command system.
learned the basics of the vi and ee editors.

Incidentally, I have been installing Apache, PHP and mysql on my home windows based win9x and xp systems for years, I must say that doing so on linux is far easier and seamless.

I couldn't find the wu-ftp package when using apt-get with the debian http source
my Radeon 9250 graphics card is of no use with linux for now...(pity as I had just bought it)
My system still cannot reboot itself on exit commands. It says restarting/rebooting but just doesn't keep it's word.(symptom on both kernels I installed - only common thing is the PC hardware and automatic network configuration by DHCP on startup)
I set my 16bit color selection to 640*800 display, and that sure is messy on mozilla, i'll figure out to how to reconfigure that mostly. (I have no info on the monitor that comes from someones, uncle, I used to know)
I have no clue how to post my file outputs to this forum, guess using the copy and paste commands in one of the editors.

Anyway, I am getting there and am enjoying it along the way!

Thanks everybody already
Brandon
 
Old 07-12-2005, 01:10 AM   #22
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Re: Progressing

Quote:
Originally posted by firersa

I couldn't find the wu-ftp package when using apt-get with the debian http source
I think the package name is "wu-ftpd" (D for daemon)
Quote:
My system still cannot reboot itself on exit commands. It says restarting/rebooting but just doesn't keep it's word.(symptom on both kernels I installed - only common thing is the PC hardware and automatic network configuration by DHCP on startup)
Do "tail /var/log/messages" to see the log.
Quote:
I have no clue how to post my file outputs to this forum, guess using the copy and paste commands in one of the editors.
Yup thats right
Its better when you paste the outputs in the "code" tag. Like this:
Code:
 akudewan@ranjan404:~$ apt-get moo
         (__)
         (oo)
   /------\/
  / |    ||
 *  /\---/\
    ~~   ~~
...."Have you mooed today?"...
All the best!
 
Old 07-12-2005, 02:59 AM   #23
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Re: Progressing

Quote:
Originally posted by firersa

I have no clue how to post my file outputs to this forum, guess using the copy and paste commands in one of the editors.

To get the file outputs into a text file you need to tell the system to get the file and save it as a text file. e.g. I want to save /var/log/messages as a text file in /home/brandon;

cat /var/log/messages > /home/brandon/messages.txt

Tip to auto-complete the line do /v[tab]/l[tab]/mess[tab] ..... this makes things very quick

Rob
 
Old 07-13-2005, 09:14 AM   #24
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uploading html files to apache www directory

I need some help.

I installed wu-ftpd. I cannot figure out how to connect to the apache www directory on my linux machine from my windows machine, so that I can load html files into that directory. When I ftp into the ip of the linux machine I see folders in the /home/ftp directory I imagine.....but I wan't to see the files in the www directory....

Can you help
Brandon
 
Old 07-13-2005, 02:09 PM   #25
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If downloading is an issue, you can request free cd's from Ubuntu, it's a great distro for newbies and expierenced Linux users alike.

request cd's here http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/user.cgi?action=new
 
Old 07-13-2005, 02:47 PM   #26
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I've actually found that recommending Damn Small Linux to some of my newbie friends most effective. The ISO is ~ 50mb and burning to a CDROM allows one to start learning Linux w/o having to dedicate an entire PC to it (Ergo, it's what's called a 'Live CD'. Yeah, it's *WAY* stripped down but still, like someone else said on here, it lets you take a bite without choking.
 
Old 07-13-2005, 03:27 PM   #27
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it lets you take a bite without choking.
I was actually extremely worried when I decided to dual boot Linux. I figured if I ever had any problems I could ignore it and just use Windows and therefore never learn anything. I was extremely wrong. I feel more at home in Linux, despite only really using it for about 2 weeks and not even being able to play video files. Even the things that are really bugging me right now about Fedora/Linux do not deter me from using it.

I only boot to Windows to play games and test my Perl code for compatibility (and some benchmarking)

Ok I kind of digressed from what I wanted to say. Basically choking might be a good way to learn Linux as your forced to deal with problems. Suppose it differs from person to person though. Games are the only thing that is keeping Windows on my machine...
 
  


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