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Old 09-04-2004, 07:40 PM   #1
sublimegirl
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desktop issues


OK I am a true newbie so if I leave something out or am hard to understand please just ask. When logging in, under my username I have the option of which desktop I want to use (mandrake 10). No matter which one i try (kde, Gnome) I go into something called ice, which isn't that bad, but I cannot find my files. I try to open nautilus and get;
Application "nautilus" (process 2705) has crashed
due to a fatal error.
(Segmentation fault)
What am I doing wrong, how can I view my files? I was going to do a fresh install but cannot back up the things I have been working on. Please Help!!
 
Old 09-04-2004, 08:37 PM   #2
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My first thought is that you don't have KDE or GNOME installed. Nautilus is a file manager for GNOME so if it's(GNOME) not installed that could explain the error your getting. The default behavior is when you want to start the window manager the system looks for the the one that you choose, if it doesn't find it, it will fall back to icewm. So again it appears that it's just not installed. So, we'll assume that's the case. Now you have a couple options. You could install KDE or GNOME or you could install a file manager for icewm. Personally I like ice. I think it's very fast and has a nice clean interface. The only drawback is that it's not very newbie friendly. If you want to keep the icewm then I suggest you just use google. I did a quick search with the words "icewm file manager"(without the quotes) and the first one was called DFM. You might want to check that one out but it's really all a matter of personal preference. If you want to install KDE or GNOME I would suggest you use drakconf. Go to software management and then to install. From there you click on the arrow next to Graphical Environment and you'll see KDE, GNOME, and other. Just check the one you want. (NOTE: This is assuming you have the CD's setup or you already have urpmi setup, that is beyond the scope of this post. Also note by doing it this way you'll be installing EVERYTHING for whatever you choose. It's by far the easiest way though.) Hope that helps.
 
Old 09-04-2004, 08:48 PM   #3
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To install KDE or Gnome, you need to go to icewm -> system -> configuration -> packaging -> install software.
Enter your root password and rpmdrake will start up.
KDE and Gnome are under 'graphical desktop'.

As an afterthought - has your PC got the spec to run KDE? It's quite a hardware intensive desktop to run - likes a lot of RAM, the more the better.
 
Old 09-04-2004, 09:18 PM   #4
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Until today I had been using gnome. I logged into Icewm to see what it was... Now Even if I choose to log into gnome or kde it will come up as Ice.. In DL'ing the window manager that was suggested I have come into a new prob... It was supposed to be saved to desktop, It is done downloading and It's not there.. In fact there is nothing there..
 
Old 09-04-2004, 09:21 PM   #5
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I want to thank you all for your help, BTW and to include that te only thing I did today that was out of the ordinary was to try to install mozilla firefox.
 
Old 09-04-2004, 09:36 PM   #6
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Unless you did something really drastic with your FF install, I can't see it ruining both your GUI desktops - although there's a first time for everything I suppose...
It'll be somewhere on your machine, you might just have to go hunting for it using Konsole.
$ whereis <package name>
or
$ locate <package name>
will work from the console. You'll have to install it from the console too.

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Old 09-04-2004, 10:24 PM   #7
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Well I am getting the error message
Application "whatever I'm trying to open" process **** has crashed due to a fatal error (segmentation fault).
This is happening whatever I try to open
 
Old 09-04-2004, 10:50 PM   #8
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Which window manager did you decide to use? How are you trying to run the applications? Through the command line or from a menu option. Is this a new problem or has it been happening the whole time. Give as much info about the problem as you can so that we can be more helpful.
 
Old 09-05-2004, 12:40 AM   #9
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The problem is new as of today, I have not been trying this through commands, this is pretty new to me so I wouldn't know where to begin with them, and now all that my comp is showing is a big ugly blue screen. Earlier I tried to download DFM, and I had no idea where it saved to, since it was supposed to save to the desktop and I had nothing there. I also opened RPMdrake but the graphical enviroments were already installed, soon after that the whole thing stopped working. everything I try to open gives me;

"Application "anything" process **** has crashed
due to a fatal error
(segmentation fault)"

I don't know what this means...

But today was the first time I had any trouble with it at all, after abo.ut two weeks of using Mandrake.
 
Old 09-05-2004, 12:37 PM   #10
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I ended up doing a fresh install of mandrake, and so now everything is working again, I booted into knoppix to try and recover my files, but everything showed up as locked (with a padlock icon on it). So to hell with it. Still if anyone has any input as to why I would see that error or as to reasons the graphical enviroments would cease to load, I would appreciate any thoughts. I don't want to do the same thing again. Thank you all...
 
Old 09-05-2004, 12:49 PM   #11
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all that SEGFAULTing leads me to believe that there (may) be an issue with your memory. those are known as memory leaks, and can lead to very serious problems. doing a reinstall may have been a good idea, considering it redid your kernel as well.
 
  


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