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Old 10-30-2011, 08:24 AM   #1
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Defective machine[ Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo] - but what ?


I have given the above machine - to 'Play with' by its owner it having been marked as beyond repair by a 'Regular' repair shop, and not knowing what exactly could not be repaired or replaced.
The symptom was - simply 'would not start'
OK. so start the poking process- then it started-
It appeared that the 'pin' switch that shuts the machine down when the Lid[screen] is closed was stuck down- So it seemed-

Windoze came up and played around then the recovered from serious error report came up and started crashing and shutting down.
Well this could be a Windoze problem or Hardware, which?

So to narrow the search I put UBUNTU 10.10 disk in.

It started to load then crashed with a long message which I will give below.
So assuming perhaps it is a Hard Disk problem Put in Clean unused hard disk.
Started to load then crashed with the same message
Which was many lines as follows

149.9127231 - Kernel Panic Not syncing attempted to kill init.
149.9127239- pld:1.comm-run-init

etc

Any thoughts guys
 
Old 10-30-2011, 04:21 PM   #2
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perhaps a RAM issue? run "memtest".
In fact you should run the ultimate boot cd which content different tools for hw checking (memtest, hwcheck...).
And see what is weird.

by the way: your machine description give with google old ones 150€ to new ones 1100€. So, I dont see what is it for a HW.
Ubuntu 10.10 is for newer machine (not for my desktop: it ends to kernel panic too).

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Old 10-31-2011, 06:50 AM   #3
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Thank you for that Floppy

Further testing does look like it going beyond O/S and Hard drive.
This is what happened with the next two tests.
New Hard drive as stated above - Install Windows XP - runs all it files and then starts to format.
Got to 45% then crashed with major error blue screen.

Cleared the machine and rested it for 15 minutes then tried the Ubuntu Ten disk
This time it got the to Try/Install screen.
So selected 'Try'[ Runs from the disk]
It installed perfectly -but froze at that point - could not move the pointer
So could be RAM or MoBo

You mentioned Ultimate Boot CD - Is this something downloadable and Burn?
Tell me more.
J
 
Old 10-31-2011, 08:51 AM   #4
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I ran Ubuntu 10 on amilo. It run s perfectly. I recently upgraded to version 11 of Ubuntu. No problems.
 
Old 10-31-2011, 04:22 PM   #5
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Thank you Amilo.
If you read the full thread you will realise it is the machine that is defective and am trying various thing to ascertain what exactly is wrong with it.
 
Old 10-31-2011, 04:24 PM   #6
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Thank you Amilo
If you read the full thread you will realise the machine is defective and trying to load 10.10 is only one of many measures to try to find out what ails it.
 
Old 10-31-2011, 04:30 PM   #7
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The machine might get to hot. Try to clean the fan and exhaust cooler.
 
Old 11-01-2011, 04:03 AM   #8
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here it is: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html (download and burn).
You could load any livecd of any light linux distro with check tools.

If it is your RAM: you should discover it quite wuick. If you have different rows of RAMs, dismount each one after the other and retest. Perhaps is 1 row dead.

If it is your HDD: start GPARTED from the livecd or from any light linux distro. And: you dont need a HDD in a PC. You can run it from USB. If your PC dont boot from USB, you could install "plop" bootloader on the HDD (on the non destructed part) and this will redirect you to your USB. Dont spend money today with HDD: the price is too high on the market.. wait for few months...;-)

And: when you are burning CDs, make all following 3 livecd:
- ultimatebootcd
- knoppix
- tinycorelinux
It should help in checking the HDD later.

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Old 11-01-2011, 04:18 AM   #9
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Than you Floppy - downloading as I type- Lets see what makes the beast to poorly.
 
  


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