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Old 08-10-2015, 11:41 AM   #1
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Decided to start migrating, a few questions though


OK,

I have decided to begin migration on at least 3 computers.
The first one is a IBM - ThinkCentre,Lavano.
Pentium 4 CPU 3.20 GHz 3.19 GHz
and 2.98 GB RAM
Physical Address Extension, ( whatever that means )

OS is XP Pro (2002) Service Pack 3

This computer may as well be the "learn" PC, it does go to BSoD after about 12 hours running idle.The plan is to get a brand new out of the box SSHD eventually
By then I ought to know enough and go through the whole process again of installing the OS, with a bit more RAM if possible.

Choice of OS to migrate to is
http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major
and want to use MINT with WINE so I hope to keep my Excel/VBA projects.
MY Projects rely on being online because it does real-time web queries/numbers/analysis/probabilities/research/statistics and strategies.
Otherwise I basically have no other real use of a computer, Period.

Currently my internet is all USB Prepay/ VodaFone 4G Pocket WiFi, and Telstra 4G USB Pre-pay as well one pre-pay USB thingy for each PC that needs to be online. ( cannot be networked, choose not to)

Search engine is now, https://duckduckgo.com/
( Goggles has been eliminated and exterminated from my phones,(internet disabled from iPhone) and all my other computers including as much as possible inside registry etc etc, and I now use a street directory if need be, the good ol fashion way instead of GPS in the car.
Enough is Enough of Big Brother (F-off), MS and
AD_ Driven_Goggles have crossed the line since the Win 10 revelation, I don't like it, so I have drawn a line in the sand, to), it's that simple.

First Question/Considerations;
Regarding my internet connection/s as described above I'll use the VodaFone option first.

Will the internet connections be able to work when I install MINT as the main OS, or should I keep XP partitioned for the sole purpose of internet connection because it currently works ?
The reason I ask is because I think that the major Telcos don't provide installation ability as they do for MS or Apple machines, as in Plug-in, sets up already good to go.
Because I will be stuck if I cannot connect with my pre-pay USB internet if it won't work with MINT or whatever else.

Thanks.

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Old 08-10-2015, 12:59 PM   #2
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Definitely keep XP there for the cellular modems. I've played with some of them and Linux and they are a lot of hassle along with zero support. The modems likely will be detected, and you'll be able to create connections for them in your connection manager, but the question becomes whether or not those connections will work.
 
Old 08-10-2015, 01:14 PM   #3
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Definitely keep XP there for the cellular modems. I've played with some of them and Linux and they are a lot of hassle along with zero support. The modems likely will be detected, and you'll be able to create connections for them in your connection manager, but the question becomes whether or not those connections will work.
Ok, Thanks.
That's what I thought so to, see what happens.
First thing is then is to get the MINT, keeping XP and go from there.
I do remember reading on one of the Telstra forums, it is supported by way of coding.
If I find it again I'll post the link.
Not sure about VodaFone though.

Cheers
 
Old 08-10-2015, 01:17 PM   #4
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Another good idea is to just boot a live distribution using USB, CD, or DVD. Sounds like either CD or USB for an old system such as that.

By live distribution, that is for most distros you burn the ISO to the media and when you boot it, it allows you to boot and try, or just boots, and then also allows you to install to the hard drive if you wish. But first you can just try it out and see (A) if it is compatible with your computer, and (B) if you even like the distribution at all.
 
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Old 08-11-2015, 10:00 AM   #5
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Regarding Telstra and Linux USB modem

I actually has a link on one of my old threads, so I'll update it here.

It was well over a year ago, so I don't know if the same applies

https://www.eigenmagic.com/2012/03/1...ng-with-linux/

This is one box within a box, ticked.
 
Old 08-11-2015, 06:43 PM   #6
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Regarding VodaFone usb broardband, there is one that I have got to work with minimal fuss on Mint 13 but I forget the model number!
On the box it comes in it says it supports linux, citing Ubuntu 12.04 (certainly cites linux) but does n't work on 12.04, only Mint 13 (LTS, supported till 2017).
It comes with software to get it running on linux in a tar ball on the stick (PCL_VDFK4201.tar.gz). God knows what it puts on your pc, but then you'll be used to that!!
You run the script provided as root (!) and it sets up a quickstart icon from whence you start the vodafone connection.
Possible rason why it does n't work on later/other linux is the changed mount point for usb from /media to /media/user.

Fred.
 
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Old 08-11-2015, 09:10 PM   #7
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Well, at least I'm gaining more confidence that eventually I won't be tied down with having MS products just to use the internet on the chosen internet plan I have.
So far looking like it will be a phase-out as this migration progresses.
May by the time I have the 3rd PC all sorted, will know enough. ( Long in time- process btw, no hurry though)


Next,

Browsers and Email accounts.

For now I been using www.safe-mail.net
No ads, but limited storage

Browsers is the key now. I think from memory there is a browser that comes pre-installed with some distros ?
Not sure, more research,
suggestions welcomed

Thanks

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Old 08-12-2015, 08:33 AM   #8
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I know that these recommendations likely may set off a bunch of persons who are very particular all about privacy and associated topics. But as far as mail, browsers, search engines, I do use gmail, thus google, google sites, and I use Firefox with NoScript and AdBlock add-ons.

NoScript blocks scripts and basically nothing works. You then selectively allow scripts to run and get what you want to work. Once you've established a sufficient baseline, things work pretty well and you're also adept at recognizing that you need to deal with choosing to allow vs. not, a new script, due to visiting a new site.

I don't get adds, pop-ups, annoyances. I get spam, but it also goes to spam and I don't manage those filters.

Yes, the spam I get seems to depend on what I search for and where I browse. And search results are probably slanted to account for that too. But I'll look further if I don't find what I'm looking for and look on other sites. Eventually it figures out that I change topics a lot and am not really hyper-focused on one particular topic, excepting my common daily site visits.

So for what it's worth, those are some ideas. I know when you cover these topics, people start to go crazy and talk about the government tracking you, etc. Well ... they know where I'm at, I'm employed, own a house, yeah ... they can find me whenever they want. All the rest, if someone really, truly cares that I read LQ, or read about certain sports teams? Have at it! Go .... favorite team!!!! Now the world knows!
 
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Old 08-12-2015, 10:00 AM   #9
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I like !

http://dooble.sf.net


When I used it to log into my webmail, no flashing anything, it was just as it ought to be,no video-ads playing eating up the bytes, nothing that used up my internet usage.
The log-on status thing on the task bar did not flash/blink at all either. Interesting, will save heaps on pre-pay internet.

It won't install it seems, just runs when unzip and click on the icon.
Definately a goer for me at this point.
Another box ticked, browser.
Just waiting on a few other things, and spare time to start a migrate on the first PC.
 
Old 08-12-2015, 10:07 AM   #10
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So for what it's worth, those are some ideas. I know when you cover these topics, people start to go crazy and talk about the government tracking you, etc
Ha !
when I got back from O/seas trip a few years ago, went to the gov office to do some paperwork the very next day I landed on home soil.
I said to the gov worker at the service desk counter, "I got back yesterday"
His reply was, "I know, it's on the computer", as he was checking my personal details.
 
Old 08-12-2015, 10:08 AM   #11
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NoScript blocks scripts and basically nothing works.
I wouldn't say nothing works. Just anything that will crash without a script! Any reasonable site will still work fine. When you go to those heavy, flash based with external links to everywhere (like news sites) is when you'll notice big issues. But I've also learned to appreciate how much faster they load too now, when only the core works.
Heavyflashbased_cookietracket.net? No thank you!
 
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Old 08-12-2015, 10:14 AM   #12
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I wouldn't say nothing works. Just anything that will crash without a script! Any reasonable site will still work fine. When you go to those heavy, flash based with external links to everywhere (like news sites) is when you'll notice big issues. But I've also learned to appreciate how much faster they load too now, when only the core works.
Heavyflashbased_cookietracket.net? No thank you!
Yes, thanks for clarifying. Right. The heavy ad based sites don't work. And yes, some sites just work without any need to unblocking scripts. You allow some scripts and they work. You allow too many of the wrong scripts and then you end up with their original intent of ads everywhere. It's a combination of minor artistry. In spite of how bad that sounds, I'll take it and have yet to have any viruses or malware on <Shhhh!> Windows based computers I use ...
 
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Hi,

I do like Firefox and with adblock, noscript & Lightbeam plugins. Lightbeam is very useful to show where you stand within the sphere. One needs tools to get where you want to be instead of blindly enabling anything. Firefox is a little heavy but my machines are capable of of handling things.

Setting up a SOHO LAN can be a little challenging to do for some new users but most major Gnu/Linux provide documentation to do so.

@bluemobile not all government agencies know everything, apparently Hillary's server has been hidden for awhile.
Maybe the NSA is prejudice as to who they will shadow or collect from??

Hope this helps.
Have fun & enjoy!
 
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Old 08-13-2015, 05:07 AM   #14
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Ok, before I get off this thread and start a new one,
I have this old puter with ubuntu installed, it was done over a year ago I think.

Forgotten p/word and looked for instructions online, not getting anywhere with it.

It's too slow for much use, but if I can just format the HD and start fresh it be a good start to get the hang of things and test some USB internet modems for starters. ( I have a few ideas later on )

The box was stashed amongst a pile of junk, forgot it was there.

Details:
PC/Box: HP Compaq, worn out sticker seems to show "2008".
OS: UBUNTU 12.04 LTS ( did have XP )

UBUNTU Install CD came from a PC repair shop.
It was stuck in the CD ROM caddy when booted up.

When it boots up, it asks for p/word, don't remember it.

All I really want to do is upgrade the OS to MINT and then play around with the USB Internet Modem.
It's a toss of the coin if I will try the Telstra or the Vodafone first, wait and see.

But we can all kick this "door-stopper" around, first cab of the rank so to speak.
I don't remeber even if I left on the previous Win XP OS, nothing else seems to show up.

What I have tried so far is search " UBUNTU FORGOTTEN PASSWORD"
Obviously it took me to another forum, but the instructions are a bit vague.
Held the Shift Key on boot up.
Got to as far as 3.11.0-15 - generic ( recovery mode ), typed in what was suggested, got no where.
Can't log in or don't know how to wipe the HD clean.
It seems to have 2 user accounts cos it did not allow me a 3rd.

How can I wipe the HD clean and start over with this box ?

Thanks
 
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Put in the MINT CD, boot it and let the MINT install wipe the HD.
 
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