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Old 11-02-2003, 12:15 AM   #1
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Debian (woody) won't load up X server - it's impotent!


I installed Debian 3.0 Woody with Desktop, X, games, and C, ++ packages (no advanced pkg selection)...

I boot up and it says that XFree 86 won't load - something about a pre-release version, I try to set it up with root, but I can't use my mouse... I use the keys.. but I don't get anywhere. I try to configure my screen and it just closes all windows (in the config thing) and I'm stuck. Have to reboot.

It says something about it set to nice 0 instead of -10...

Please help, I moved from RedHat9 because it didn't do it for me. I was hoping Woody had it what it takes. I plan to install LFS with Woody later. Right now I got no internet connection on Woody, no mouse. No X.

Arg.

I'm looking here too: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=110746

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Old 11-02-2003, 12:34 AM   #2
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after running xf86config and editing all that crap I get:

failed to open filename for writing

I'm getting just a little annoyed... I've spent my whole weekend on Debian
 
Old 11-02-2003, 01:10 AM   #3
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Debian is nice once installed, but it is not very friendly to set up. Are you running xf86config as root? It should write a config file in /etc/X11, which is only writable by root. Also if you want useful advice here I think you need to be more specific about what error messages you are getting.
 
Old 11-02-2003, 01:57 AM   #4
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yes, I ran it as root... I can't really remember the messages completely, I suppose I could write them down...
 
Old 11-02-2003, 02:47 AM   #5
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Errors:

I cannot start the X server. It is likely that it is not set up correctly. Would you like to view server output... blah

Yes.
-------
Warning: Process set to nice value 0 instead of -10 as requested.

this is a pre-release version of xfree86 and is not supported

using config file /usr/X11/R6/lib/X11/xf86config
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and I choose not to go through their setup X thing (it just doesn't work... I get nowhere)

so I dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and go through that... then it still says things aren't configured properly... ugh... (when I try to load startx it just flickers then gives errors regarding stuff below... not found, etc)

I've got MS intellimouse explorer USB mouse, norm keyboard (MS internet keyboard), nvidia geforce 2 MX/MX 400 32mb ghx card, 17 inch monitor (that's not the only piece of hardware that's 17 inches, either )..... umm... IBM 6332 E74, 60 hertz refresh rate

I'm lost.....

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Old 11-02-2003, 04:57 AM   #6
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Sorry to say I'm as mystified as you. I'm using Debian 'testing' here and nothing you report looks at all familiar. Where did you get the installation CD from? There shouldn't be any pre-release stuff in Debian Woody.

If you have some bandwidth to d/l CD images you might try some of the recent distros which add effective hardware detection to Debian e.g. Knoppix (www.knoppix.org) which I've used and am very impressed by, or Mepis (www.mepis.org) which looks a bit similar (but I haven't tried).
 
Old 11-02-2003, 05:09 AM   #7
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I downloaded it from a mirror... didn't md5 check (though I'll do it now)

I'll probably download knoppix next month (bandwidth caps... been d/l a bit)
 
Old 11-02-2003, 05:13 AM   #8
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Following up my own message -- I think you should check you have a genuine Debian CD. For this you can calculate the checksum (in text mode, with the CD in the drive):

cat /dev/cdrom | md5sum

and compare the result with the checksums listed on the Debian site e.g. in

/pub/debian-cd/3.0_r1/i386/MD5SUMS

P.S. - OK messages crossed over
 
Old 11-02-2003, 05:34 AM   #9
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the md5 sums match. perhaps it's just a default message when something craps up?

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Old 11-02-2003, 06:33 AM   #10
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I did a search on Debian mail-list archives and sure enough there seem to some similar to your situation for Woody e.g.

http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive.../msg00701.html

You could have a look through that and the various follow-ups for further ideas. Errors are recorded in the file /var/log/XFree86.0.log. Maybe you could save it on your Windows partition to save writing stuff down?

Sorry I can't offer more specific advice. I can understand your frustration -- setting up sound and X11 are the two big sources of config problems.
 
Old 11-02-2003, 10:57 AM   #11
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If it's "woody" that you're trying to set up, then you might look into graphics card issues.

My geforce 4 mx420 wouldn't work with woody. this was to do with the nvidia driver only being compatible with a 2.4.xx kernel - I had installed the default 2.2.xx kernel.

One of the chaps from my LUG who also happens to be on the debian developers list, came round and got things set up for me, but this involved in doing a dist upgrade to "Sarge" which has the default 2.4.xx kernel - debian also don't include the nvidia drivers as they aren't "GPL'd" even though you just go to nvidia.com and you can download them from there.

I played with it for 2 or 3 weeks, and I still never managed to get it looking how I wanted (even though I managed to get the kde version up to 3.1.4 and some other stuff), so I had a look at knoppix, which after a hard disc install, is basically a "testing/unstable" debian install - I find it excellent (though still having to meddle with the /apt/sources.list some).

Yup, I feel that the knoppix hard disc install was ALMOST as easy as a mandrake install.

regards

John

p.s. have you had a look around the distro's>debian forum, you might find something there, also if you intend having a look into knoppix, have a look here.

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