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Old 12-04-2005, 02:02 PM   #1
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Debian repository? Huh?


I am running Demudi (Debian based distro)

This distro comes with Synaptic.
I launch synaptic and get a list of packages, how easy is that!
I hit the refresh button to get the newest list, then click "Mark all upgrades".
None of the checkboxes get marked, and my "Apply" button is gray.

I thought that maybe nothing has changed since the release of Demudi, but Firefox 1.5 is out. Demudi only ships with version 1.0.4 and I would really like to upgrade. Synaptic shows that the latest Firefox is 1.0.4 and won't let me upgrade.

Did I forget to do something?
Also, would it be wise to install FF 1.5 manually?

Thanks for your help
 
Old 12-04-2005, 02:31 PM   #2
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I have never heard of/used the distro, but if it's based on Debian sarge (or a previous version) (stable/FROZEN) and they are so close they use the same sources (repositories) for their files then you won't get firefox 1.5 that way.

Once Debian becomes stable/FROZEN you only get bugfixes/security fixes, not program upgrades.

You can look into adding the testing sources to get more up-to-date software but that could cause trouble with some programs and their dependencies
 
Old 12-04-2005, 02:52 PM   #3
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FYI, Demudi can be found at
w w w. a g n u l a .o r g
Great distro, but, I'm so use to clicking on things and having things work in windows.

Linux seems like a great OS, but it seems like I'm doing more work trying to get everything working then doing the things i need to be doing. Its taking me hours to install my ATI drivers and they still don't work.

So what you are saying is that even if a new version of software is available, (firefox in this instance) its not a good idea to install it because it might cause a problem with dependencies?
 
Old 12-04-2005, 02:57 PM   #4
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You can get Firefox 1.5 by putting this line in your repositories (sources.list) :

deb http://www.backports.org/pending/ ./

and just do apt-get install firefox
in a terminal, as root. I run sarge, too and I'm typing this
from FF 1.5
cheers
 
Old 12-04-2005, 02:58 PM   #5
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What i'm saying is if it uses the same sources, you won't be able to get firefox 1.5 from the standard sources you have setup.

Now if you want to do it via apt-get you will need to add some testing sources, which whilst firefox shouldn't break any dependencies, adding other things from there may do.

Now you can go to their website (http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/) and get the tar.gz which will either require installing from source or it may run straight from the extracted files.

This is all speculation since i've never tried the distro, but if you are going to want constantly updated software, might be an idea to look for a different distro that offers cutting edge versions (or just compile it all from source)
 
Old 12-04-2005, 08:03 PM   #6
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Ah I see. Thank you for the replies I think I get it now.
--edit--

One question remains, sorry if its a dumb one.
If you can dig into other reposetories other then the standard ones that are provided with the distro, could I in theory connect to lets say the Ubuntu repository since its based on Debian 3.1?

The reason I don't want to move away from Agnula-Demudi is the fact that its great for sound and media, which is exactly what I'm after. Maybe I need to change my mentality when using linux, but in windows the newest was always the best... so I'm use to searching for new things all the time.

Again, thanks for all the help.

Last edited by alek.m; 12-04-2005 at 08:15 PM.
 
Old 12-04-2005, 09:18 PM   #7
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ahhhhh the newest is always the best
well in debian the "fully tested and patched" is always the best
the "newest" is for testing.
 
Old 12-04-2005, 10:52 PM   #8
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Allright, fair enough.
So what about software that is missing?

When I run Synaptic and go under Repositories, the Debian repository exists yet is unchecked.
Could I connect to the main debian rep. and download software through it?

There are many things this distro is missing like OpenOffice, torrent client, and an IM client.
I would even like to upgrade from this gnome version to the next one up, if that is possible.

Again, I might just go ahead and experiment... this is a brand new install so I have no data that I'm worried about loosing anyway.
 
Old 12-05-2005, 02:13 AM   #9
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Well i don't know what it would do, never having done it myself.

If you're going to try i'd start with something very small that isn't a dependency of something. Try that and see if it installs/works cleanly
 
Old 12-05-2005, 05:55 PM   #10
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Connecting to other repositories may work, but it may not. I know Ubuntu uses it's own repositories and their packages aren't completely compatible with standard Debian, but I think I've heard some other distros do work. As ethics said, if you install something simple without any dependencies it seems like a good experiment.
 
  


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