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cloacms 12-14-2009 12:33 PM

Debian Lenny : how to install xfce 4.6 instead of lenny's 4.4
Hello, LQ.

I've got this problem ones may already heard of.
Installed debian lenny, i was trying to use gnome and kde but i don't like them. I tried xfce and it seem to fit my needs but...
My computer is used to be powered on for a weeks. While time passes, a process xfdesktop begin to use more and more memory and to free RAM i need to log out and log in again (it's crazy, don't you think?).

I tried squeeze yesterday on my virtual machine and it has 4.6 and seem not to have that bug, RAM usage is static(yes it still works when i write this and have memory usage 34492k, which is not changing for an hours of usage already), also 4.6 is MUCH better than 4.4.

Advice? how to do that safe?
i already tried adding squeeze to "sources.list" but i can see too many dependencies which should be upgraded if i install 4.6, i'm beginning to afraid it can crash entire GUI(or entire system, i can see there is libc6 required to be updated). is it the only way?

the trooper 12-14-2009 12:42 PM

The easiest way would be to use Backports:

cloacms 12-14-2009 12:53 PM

yeah im using backports, thanks for the link, i will try that.

the trooper 12-14-2009 12:55 PM

Don't forget to remove Squeeze from your sources.list also!.

cloacms 12-14-2009 03:38 PM

it won't work. i tried to remove xfce4 package and install this, but no luck ( ), or directly install .deb i fetched, but still no luck(it still won't install xfce4 with apt-get -f install )
i upgraded it partially and it still seem to work but the version is same, bug is present... what would i do?
any idea how to get that fixed?
even tried removing main mirrors, leaving only backports... nothing helped.

i really begin to believe this system is trying to tell me it is smarter than me.

worm5252 12-14-2009 03:40 PM

try this

apt-get remove --purge xfce4

cloacms 12-14-2009 03:47 PM

no way...
what am i doing wrong? maybe i need to go another way of installing?

cloacms 12-14-2009 03:49 PM

maybe i need to remove all packages associated with xfce and start from scratch?

the trooper 12-14-2009 03:51 PM

Start from the beginning.


aptitude purge xfce4 && aptitude purge ~c
Then,add your entries for the main Debian repositories and Backports in /etc/apt/sources.list
When you have added these post back here with the output of


cat /etc/apt/sources.list
And then we will go from there.

worm5252 12-14-2009 03:52 PM

What about doing this for each dependency


apt-get upgrade xfdesktop4

cloacms 12-14-2009 03:58 PM

what is "purge ~c"?
sources.list is

deb lenny contrib main
deb lenny contrib main
deb lenny/updates main contrib
deb-src lenny/updates main contrib
deb lenny/volatile main contrib
deb-src lenny/volatile main contrib
deb lenny main
deb lenny-backports main

2 worm5252: i believe it does upgrade on entire system, not the package.

the trooper 12-14-2009 04:18 PM

So Xfce is purged successfully,yes?.
Then the next step is to work on your sources.list.
We'll borrow Craigevils' example,make yours look something like this:


deb lenny main contrib non-free
#Stable Sources
deb-src lenny main contrib non-free
#Security Updates Stable
deb lenny/updates main contrib non-free

# Debian Volatile
 deb lenny/volatile main contrib non-free

# Debian Stable Backports
deb lenny-backports main contrib non-free apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring
 deb lenny  main

deb lenny main

Obviously you can change the US entries for ones more appropriate to your location.
Post back with yours when you have modified it.


what is "purge ~c"?
Removes any leftover config files.

cloacms 12-14-2009 04:42 PM

cat /etc/apt/sources.list

deb lenny main contrib
#Stable Sources
deb-src lenny main contrib
#Security Updates Stable
deb lenny/updates main contrib
# Debian Volatile
deb lenny/volatile main contrib
# Debian Stable Backports
deb lenny-backports main contrib apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring
deb lenny main
deb lenny main

already run "aptitude update" what's next?

the trooper 12-14-2009 05:05 PM

If you had no errors after running aptitude upate,then we can install Xfce again.
So install with:


aptitude -t lenny-backports install xfce4
See how that goes.

cloacms 12-14-2009 05:17 PM

no way... tried Y also, nothing helps.
either it's too smart or too stupid. im beginning to think i will need to reinstall system entirely. or remove it and install something else which isn't so damn smart.

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