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Old 09-30-2009, 02:59 AM   #1
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debian: install wicd without internet?


hi, is there any way i can install wicd (network manager) without having internet? the reason i am installing wicd is, in fact, to get my wireless setup on my asus s1300: here.

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Old 09-30-2009, 03:08 AM   #2
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hi, is there any way i can install wicd (network manager) without having internet? the reason i am installing wicd is, in fact, to get my wireless setup on my asus s1300: here.

thanks!
Sure. Just download the appropriate RPM, disconnect from the Internet, then:

Code:
# rpm -ivh (rpm filename)
But it probably won't work, because your system probably won't have all the required dependencies. So you reconnect to the Internet, get more RPMs, and repeat as above.

Or you can do the obvious and use yum or apt-get while connected.
 
Old 09-30-2009, 03:26 AM   #3
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i do not have the choice to be "disconnected" from the internet. i am trying to setup a wireless connection for the laptop, it has completely no internet connection, freshly installed yesterday. yet to setup a wireless connection, i read that i will be needing wicd (the network manager).
 
Old 09-30-2009, 04:24 AM   #4
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see what dependencies it has...go on a PC with internet connection..download the program and dependencies, save them on a USB stick...go back to your laptop ...and install..
 
Old 09-30-2009, 06:49 AM   #5
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The first question has to be do you have on ethernet port on your laptop?.
Also what are you trying to connect to?,i assume some kind of wireless router?.
Can you connect with a cable from your router to your laptop?.
Also what branch of Debian are you using?,i'm guessing Lenny/Stable?.
The reason i ask this is because if you are using Lenny,you'll need to download Wicd from the Backports repository:

http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/wicd

The packages marked in red are the dependencies,as you can see there are many.
If you can get a wired connection going here's how to use backports:

http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions

So to sum up,if possible use a wired connection to download the relevant packages,or if this is not an option you'll have to download Wicd and it's dependencies manually and save to usb as ddaemonunics has correctly stated.
Also with Debian,the packages are the .deb type.
To install from the command line you use dpkg -i <package-name>.

Edit:If you have an install disc you can add the cd/dvd to your apt sources to help with some or all of the dependencies.

Last edited by the trooper; 09-30-2009 at 02:26 PM.
 
Old 09-30-2009, 07:04 AM   #6
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If you are using Gnome, there should be a network manager already running. Your issue could lie in the drivers for the wireless chip you have in your laptop.
Gnome network manager is not too difficult to work with and it should work IF proper drivers are installed for the card.
 
Old 09-30-2009, 08:21 PM   #7
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linuxlover.chaitanya,

from what i had learn while trying out other linux os, it never required me to install any drivers except direct detection once i plugged in my dongle. such as ubuntu, it connected immediately right after i supplied it with the ESSID. i tried working with its original Network Manager n received only "lo" no matter what i keyed in for its Wireless Connection. therefore i searched on the web n came across the recommended Wicd Network Manager. apparently installing it wasn't easy as well. hehe.


the trooper,

yes, i am trying to connect to a wireless router through wlan0 (which i usually use on other linux os n assumed the same for debian). i finally had Wicd installed by downloading quite a few packages (wicd, gdebi-core, python-apt, lsb-release). but right now, even with an Wicd Manager's icon listed in the Panel, it said "No wireless networks found" when i clicked on it, its status said "Not connected". selecting "Connect" returned no different result. does anyone know where should i go from there?
 
Old 10-01-2009, 01:13 AM   #8
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But you are not using Ubuntu anymore. Your debian might not have the most recent kernel or the version that you require for the automatic detection.
You can still download the package from sourceforge.
 
Old 10-01-2009, 02:02 AM   #9
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linuxlover.chaitanya,

do you happened to be experience with debian as well? could you roughly guide me through the setup procedure? i am reinstalling the whole debian right now, just in case something went wrong during all those tryings.
 
Old 10-01-2009, 02:07 AM   #10
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I do not think you borked anything while installing your debian. Install it the way you would normally do. And after your installation is complete post the output of

lspci -vv

lsmod

These commands would tell if the wireless chip is detected? This is quite a common issue faced. No wireless network.
 
Old 10-01-2009, 02:29 AM   #11
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linuxlover.chaitanya,

thanks! i shall post the output right after the debian installation is complete. i really would have Love to stick to ubuntu 9.04 if not for the distorted graphics problem (here).
 
Old 10-01-2009, 02:42 AM   #12
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The problem you mentioned has been seen before but frankly I have not had the problem and hence I can not say what caused it. Could be fonts, could be display. Or could be anything else as well.
You could again try Ubuntu from another installation media. May be download another image, check with md5sum, burn at very low speeds to be sure of the integrity of burned media and then install.
Also if you like Ubuntu, you could wait for some time, Ubuntu Karmic Koala is coming. It is going to be released this month itself.
 
Old 10-01-2009, 02:42 AM   #13
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linuxlover.chaitanya,

the installation finally completed, n here is the output:

Code:
user@debian:~$ lspci -vv
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82830 830 Chipset Host Bridge (rev 03)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1402
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Region 0: Memory at <unassigned> (32-bit, prefetchable)
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
	Kernel modules: intel-agp

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1492
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
	Region 0: Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
	Region 1: Memory at e7800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel modules: intelfb

00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82830 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1492
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0 (2500ns max)
	Region 0: Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
	Region 1: Memory at e7000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>

00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB Controller #1 (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1402
	Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
	Region 4: I/O ports at d800 [size=32]
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
	Kernel modules: uhci-hcd

00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB Controller #2 (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1402
	Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 9
	Region 4: I/O ports at d400 [size=32]
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
	Kernel modules: uhci-hcd

00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM USB Controller #3 (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1402
	Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin C routed to IRQ 9
	Region 4: I/O ports at d000 [size=32]
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
	Kernel modules: uhci-hcd

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 41) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=05, sec-latency=32
	I/O behind bridge: 0000b000-0000bfff
	Memory behind bridge: e2800000-e6ffffff
	Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR-
	BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR+ NoISA+ VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
		PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
	Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801CAM ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 01)
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle+ MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Kernel modules: intel-rng, iTCO_wdt

00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801CAM IDE U100 Controller (rev 01) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1402
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
	Region 0: I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8]
	Region 1: I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1]
	Region 2: I/O ports at 0170 [size=8]
	Region 3: I/O ports at 0374 [size=1]
	Region 4: I/O ports at 9400 [size=16]
	Region 5: Memory at e2000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
	Kernel driver in use: PIIX_IDE
	Kernel modules: piix

00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1493
	Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 4
	Region 0: I/O ports at e000 [size=256]
	Region 1: I/O ports at e100 [size=64]
	Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
	Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0

01:09.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1410 PC card Cardbus Controller (rev 01)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1534
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 168, Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
	Region 0: Memory at e2801000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Bus: primary=01, secondary=02, subordinate=05, sec-latency=176
	Memory window 0: e2c00000-e2fff000 (prefetchable)
	Memory window 1: 10000000-13fff000
	I/O window 0: 0000b000-0000b0ff
	I/O window 1: 0000bc00-0000bcff
	BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- ISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset+ 16bInt+ PostWrite+
	16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001
	Kernel driver in use: yenta_cardbus
	Kernel modules: yenta_socket

01:0a.0 Communication controller: Conexant HSF 56k HSFi Modem (rev 01)
	Subsystem: Actiontec Electronics Inc Device 8d89
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 64
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
	Region 0: Memory at e4000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
	Region 1: I/O ports at b800 [size=8]
	Capabilities: <access denied>

01:0b.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1537
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 64 (500ns min, 1000ns max), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
	Region 0: Memory at e3800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
	Region 1: Memory at e3000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: ohci1394
	Kernel modules: ohci1394

01:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. L8400B or L3C/S notebook
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 64 (8000ns min, 16000ns max)
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
	Region 0: I/O ports at b400 [size=256]
	Region 1: Memory at e2800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: 8139too
	Kernel modules: 8139cp, 8139too

user@debian:~$ lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
nls_utf8                1760  1 
nls_cp437               5568  1 
vfat                    9152  1 
fat                    40864  1 vfat
nls_base                6820  4 nls_utf8,nls_cp437,vfat,fat
i915                   25280  1 
drm                    65288  2 i915
ipv6                  235396  10 
ppdev                   6468  0 
lp                      8164  0 
sbp2                   18572  0 
loop                   12748  0 
joydev                  8480  0 
pcmcia                 29548  0 
serio_raw               4740  0 
psmouse                32336  0 
irda                   95480  0 
parport_pc             22500  1 
parport                30988  3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
crc_ccitt               2080  1 irda
snd_intel8x0           26268  0 
snd_ac97_codec         88452  1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus                1728  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                62660  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_seq                41456  0 
snd_timer              17800  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device          6380  1 snd_seq
snd                    45636  6 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore               6368  1 snd
yenta_socket           20620  1 
rsrc_nonstatic          9504  1 yenta_socket
snd_page_alloc          7816  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
pcmcia_core            31892  3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
video                  16464  0 
output                  2912  1 video
pcspkr                  2432  0 
arc4                    1824  2 
ecb                     2624  2 
crypto_blkcipher       15236  1 ecb
bay                     4160  0 
battery                10180  0 
asus_laptop            14264  0 
led_class               3908  1 asus_laptop
ac                      4196  0 
button                  6096  0 
zd1211rw               39876  0 
firmware_class          6816  2 pcmcia,zd1211rw
rng_core                3940  0 
shpchp                 25528  0 
pci_hotplug            23460  1 shpchp
mac80211              139776  1 zd1211rw
cfg80211               21608  1 mac80211
intel_agp              22524  1 
agpgart                28808  3 drm,intel_agp
sd_mod                 22200  2 
evdev                   8000  7 
ext3                  105576  1 
jbd                    39476  1 ext3
mbcache                 7108  1 ext3
ide_cd_mod             27684  0 
cdrom                  30176  1 ide_cd_mod
ide_disk               10496  3 
ata_generic             4676  0 
libata                140448  1 ata_generic
dock                    8304  2 bay,libata
8139too                20384  0 
usb_storage            77120  1 
scsi_mod              129548  4 sbp2,sd_mod,libata,usb_storage
ohci1394               24976  0 
8139cp                 16800  0 
mii                     4896  2 8139too,8139cp
ieee1394               75832  2 sbp2,ohci1394
piix                    6568  0 [permanent]
ide_pci_generic         3908  0 [permanent]
ide_core               96168  4 ide_cd_mod,ide_disk,piix,ide_pci_generic
uhci_hcd               18672  0 
usbcore               118192  4 zd1211rw,usb_storage,uhci_hcd
thermal                15228  0 
processor              32576  1 thermal
fan                     4196  0 
thermal_sys            10856  4 video,thermal,processor,fan
user@debian:~$
 
Old 10-01-2009, 02:58 AM   #14
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I do not see your wireless chip listed in lspci output. Do you know what card you have in you machine?
 
Old 10-01-2009, 03:07 AM   #15
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it worked!

after having a fresh installation of debian, i reinstalled the packages (wicd, gdebi-core, python-apt, lsb-release), including one more named zd1211-firmware. n the list appeared beautifully! seemed like i missed out one package for the firmware like you had mentioned. after reboot, it connected perfectly.

thanks for giving me the rough idea on how to trace the problem, linuxlover.chaitanya! thank you!
 
  


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