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Old 09-21-2015, 12:09 PM   #1
ContraShock
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Debian first install - boot hangs (TOSHIBA Qosmio X505-Q894)


I'm command line literate, but I'm not sure how to work around this one.

Here's my setup:

TOSHIBA Qosmio X505-Q894
Specs Link (Toshiba site PDF)
-6 GB RAM
-Loading Debian 8.0.2 i386 without desktop environment

Here's what I get at boot:

Code:
 oading, please wait...
fsck from util-linux 2.25.2
/dev/sda1: clean, 40004/14057472 files, 1181966/56225536 blocks
[    3.290807] kvm: disabled by bios
I think this is an ACPI issue. I'm not sure if I should look into disabling ACPI (not sure what the effects would be) or if I should be looking at some kind of patch/config fix.

Anyone come across anything like this before?

The rest below is more detailed stuff I've uncovered in this problem, but not necessary to read (as far as I can tell). I'm still posting it just in case it contains some important info pertaining to my boot problem that I missed.

Any ideas?

============================
======The long version =====
============================
============================
============================
============================
============================

Quote:
Yes, the "L" is missing from the word "Loading". No response on any keystrokes and no login prompt, but the system still responds to CTRL + ALT + DEL, but that's it.

At first, I received a message stating that firmware had failed to load. It was the built-in WiFi which I don't need. I thought maybe that was hanging the system up. So I searched for the firmware, modified the sources.list and downloaded the "firmware-realtek" package and installed the missing firmware (rtl8192sefw.bin).

Not sure where the "kvm: disabled by bios" came from. I am using a KVM switch, but I wonder if that is what it is referring to. My KVM switch is still functioning normally. The kvm related error showed up right after I changed my SATA mode to "Compatibility" in the BIOS (used to be AHCI). I've changed the setting back to AHCI, but the error persists. I doubt it's what is hanging up the system.

Another level of wierdness... I tried booting into recovery mode. There I finally got to the command prompt and could log in. I kept seeing an error msg at regular intervals:

Code:
toshiba_acpi: Unknown key 402
This error made doing anything on the command line a pain. Seems to pop up every 31 of 32 seconds.

I found a post about toshiba and acpi issues:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugr...cgi?bug=383326

I downloaded and installed the updated package while in recovery mode but that had no effect on the regularly recurring messages.

Last bit of weirdness... I can install a desktop environment and everything seems to work fine.

I actually wanted a pure server mode, all command line. Didn't expect it to be harder to setup. I wonder if this laptop is just not good for Debian??? Bad hardware?

The weirdest bit is that recovery mode seems to work better, except for the "toshiba_acpi: unknown key 402" bit constantly popping up.

Last edited by ContraShock; 09-21-2015 at 04:47 PM.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 04:20 PM   #2
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How to eat an elephant? One bite at a time.

You have posted a lot. Although not impossible to help you solve your problems, I would suggest you post several small problems rather than one big post with a lot of problems.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 04:38 PM   #3
ContraShock
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I apologize. Usually people complain for not posting enough info and poorly giving the context.

That's why I put the "long version" in there underneath some separation. I wish there were more tags (like [compress][/compress]) so I could include seemingly relevant info but not make the post look huge.

I didn't want to give the impression that I was reaching out without having done any work to fix it myself.

I'll reformat the post to try and separate the important bits better.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 05:51 PM   #4
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If I may suggest, make a list of the problems, then prioritize them (text editor or pen and paper). Then post smaller questions, possibly one at a time.

Thanks for helping me to help you. Not that I can wave a magic wand, but the "fsck" error caught my eye because I recently had a similar question. It got solved. Actually, there really was no solving to do with that particular *announcement*, for lack of a better word. This fsck announcement, in my case, was simply a new Debian "thing" not to worry about or try to fix. I, like a lot of others as I learned, just let Debian do its bootup routine, and this is a part of it. Although, with the "KVM" note there may be something to fix.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 09:01 PM   #5
ContraShock
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Again I apologize. I didn't realize which was the most relevant, let alone which symptom would take priority.

Since my last post I've tried installing Ubuntu Server. Some package is included that solved the issue I was having, and I'm pretty sure it was an ACPI driver. The miracle package in question caused my laptop to go to sleep when the lid was closed, but at least that was the only issue, and it was easily fixed.

I think that package had something to do with "systemd". The config file was /etc/systemd/logind.conf

Any idea what package uses that config file? I'm gonna reinstall Debian, startup in recovery mode and start searching the repositories for "systemd". I found some entries on my Ubuntu installation that have "systemd" as a part of it, but haven't found anything that was just straight "systemd".

It would seem that priority 1 is to find all the right drivers (duh ... hardware 101).

Thanks for the kickstart. My train of thought finally got back on track, so I have a few more ideas to try.

If you have any more ideas or advice I'll certainly appreciate the consideration! I'll report back my findings.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 09:17 PM   #6
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Did a

Code:
$ locate logind.conf
and a

Code:
$ cat logind.conf
for the appropriate directory location of logind.conf,

and read that this file is a part of "systemd".

Did a

Code:
$ man systemd
and I see, at first, what may be an interesting read.

Respectfully recommend you read up on

Code:
$ man systemd
That's all I got for now...early morning calls.

Last edited by theAdmiral; 09-21-2015 at 09:23 PM. Reason: left out command "cat"
 
Old 09-21-2015, 10:08 PM   #7
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I actually did try that and there were no results in the man pages on my system. Apart from reinstalling Debian maybe when I manually install systemd I will finally be able to see those man pages.
 
Old 09-22-2015, 08:04 AM   #8
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If you have internet access, maybe try

http://www.freedesktop.org/software/...n/systemd.html

It is an online man page for "systemd".

Last edited by theAdmiral; 09-22-2015 at 08:05 AM. Reason: Not enough detail.
 
Old 09-22-2015, 06:11 PM   #9
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Ah hah! Thanks!! I can't believe that didn't cross my mind.
 
Old 09-22-2015, 07:27 PM   #10
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If you do a web search for "online man pages linux", there should be several to choose from. Whether Unix pages and Linux pages are exactly the same, I would doubt. So, you may not be able to settle on the first result (in my post), as accurate and applicable to your situation. You may have to search for yourself even further. But, they're out there on the Net. I'm glad you have capabilities to do a search yourself and pick a manual page that is most suited to your use.
 
Old 10-10-2015, 10:26 PM   #11
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Just wanted to finally report back a solution!

It turns out that for some reason, the KVM switch (attached via DVI + DVI>HDMI adapter) I was using was actually causing Debian to hang on boot. After doing a clean install of Debian without the KVM switch attached, everything worked fine.

EDIT: Also when I booted into recovery mode, everything worked fine as well with the KVM switch. I'm not inclined to troubleshoot any of that currently. Finally got the setup I was looking for.

The funny thing about this is that the last BIOS update I found for this laptop actually allowed the HDMI port to be used to view the boot screens. This WAS particularly helpful to me in that I use a KVM switch. Now however, I have nothing of the sort hooked up to this laptop anymore.

I finally learned how to configure SSH with public/private keys so there's no more need for actually seeing the screen anymore.

Can't believe it was so darn simple. Not sure what it was about that KVM switch I used, but it doesn't matter anymore!

I guess the "kvm: disabled by bios" bit was a bit more relevant than I thought. Never knew KVM switches were recognized at that level.

@theAdmiral
- Thanks for your patience. Sorry it took me so long to get back to participate in solving this one.

Last edited by ContraShock; 10-10-2015 at 10:29 PM.
 
Old 10-11-2015, 06:39 AM   #12
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Glad you got it solved!
 
  


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