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i am looking for a debian based distro that uses xfce4 as its default gui, i would like xfce4 as the default because i am a newb and i am not too formiliar with the file system so i have a hard time setting up the menues from scratch
also i would really like an easy to install distro...i can handle setting up partitions, but anything more than that i would like to be automagic
A base install of Debian Sarge is very straight forward providing you know what hardware you are using. A lot of the information should be available from your current installation. Thereafter you just go ahead with what I suggested above. The big advantage with a pure Debian system is that you know there are no mixtures of applications in the system and it will be very stable. Debian based distros tend to be mix and match types that make you reliant on packages from the originator.
The alernative for ubuntu is to apt-get install desktop you want and select it as the default when the option comes up going on to the desktop. I have not used Ubuntu but with my Debian Sarge and Woody systems there is a menu that comes up so that you can select which ever desktop manager you want. There are 3 options as standard.