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Old 12-12-2008, 08:33 PM   #46
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LOL Thank you all for your help yes I agree with both pixel and norobro I have learned more about linux's commands in the last 3 days than i have in the last year of running this OS Do you think i should just update to the newest kernel (X)ubuntu 8.10 does anyone know if that supports ppc64 flash?

again I thank you both for your help and determination have a wonderful day I would like to add you as my friends on here in case I have another easier n00b question is this ok?
 
Old 12-12-2008, 08:57 PM   #47
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I'm a bit lost at this point...

Are you running a 64-bit OS?

64-bit version of Firefox?

Trying the 64-bit version of Flash (which is only in alpha stage)?


I cannot tell you what to try based on these questions, but I CAN tell you that I now install only 32-bit OS and apps---regardless of hardware. If you decide to try a different distro, consider going with 32-bit.
 
Old 12-12-2008, 09:39 PM   #48
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lol I dont know my buddy gave me this os on a disc and basic instructions on the install and i took it from there but yeah im kinda interested in trying something new ill check out the other os and keep you posted

And pixel how can I check what Im running? I have this installed on a PLaystation 3 video game I read alot about the graphics card being locked perhaps this is why flash isnt working? but at one time I did have flash working on the distro but when they updated the adobe flash to 10 it stopped so I dont know but I will find out and somehow let you know
 
Old 12-13-2008, 09:28 AM   #49
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Somewhere on that disk, there should be something which identifies what the OS is. If nothing else, it should appear when you boot the disk.

I just found the "getconf" command, which gives this on my system (delete the grep part to see all of what getconf returns.)

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[mherring@Ath ~]$ getconf -a|grep WORD_BIT
WORD_BIT 32
This thread is also of interest:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...8/#post3374119

Whatever you do, get yourself in a position where you know what version of Linux is on your system.....
 
Old 12-13-2008, 04:50 PM   #50
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Ok well i know what distro I have it's xubuntu gutsy gibbon 7.10 but its on a playstation 3 which is the ppc64 whether the distro is 64 bit or 32 bit i have no clue not at home right no but will type in the commands when i make it home
 
Old 12-13-2008, 06:49 PM   #51
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Ok well i know what distro I have it's xubuntu gutsy gibbon 7.10 but its on a playstation 3 which is the ppc64 whether the distro is 64 bit or 32 bit i have no clue not at home right no but will type in the commands when i make it home
One good strategy for you will be to start over with a more current version of [U/Ku/Xu]buntu, or maybe Mint, Mepis, or anything else in the top ten at Distrowatch.

If you do decide to do a new installation, use a 32-bit version (AKA i386, i686, X86, etc.) You will have a lot less hassles getting everything to work.
 
Old 12-13-2008, 09:10 PM   #52
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well lol this is funny heres what I got pixelanny

user1@user1-desktop:~$ getconf -a|grep WORD_BIT
WORD_BIT 32

Well this explains why the 64 bit alpha one didnt work but why not the original from adobe?
 
Old 12-14-2008, 05:21 AM   #53
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Well this explains why the 64 bit alpha one didnt work but why not the original from adobe?
Because you're using a PPC architecture. Adobe Flash player for Linux is available for x86 and there's a beta for x86_64. There is no Adobe Flash player for PPC.

If you'd said in your original post that you were running Linux on a Playstation 3 this thread you could have saved yourself a lot of effort as someone would have quickly pointed out the impossibility of what you are trying to do.

You could try Gnash but it is not functionally equivalent to Adobe Flash player and you may encounter Flash content which Gnash cannot handle.
 
Old 12-14-2008, 08:56 AM   #54
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Because you're using a PPC architecture. Adobe Flash player for Linux is available for x86 and there's a beta for x86_64. There is no Adobe Flash player for PPC.

If you'd said in your original post that you were running Linux on a Playstation 3 this thread you could have saved yourself a lot of effort as someone would have quickly pointed out the impossibility of what you are trying to do.

You could try Gnash but it is not functionally equivalent to Adobe Flash player and you may encounter Flash content which Gnash cannot handle.
We're all learning a lot here!!!

I had thought that the architecture was handled by the OS...I don't recall seeing versions of any SW for PPC. In many cases, there is no choice at all---it is simply 32-bit SW that runs on Linux.

What is it about FlashPlayer that would care about the hardware architecture (other than 32- vs 64-bit)?

Can you give any other of examples of Linux apps where one would be concerned about this?
 
Old 12-14-2008, 10:37 AM   #55
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At the Adobe site, the specs are ambiguous. For the Mac, there are different versions for ppc and Intel architectures. For Linux, they just say "800MHz or better".
Now I am more confused.....
 
Old 12-14-2008, 10:39 AM   #56
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post 9 i did state is was on a ps3 and numerous times after this gnash is junk makes flash a grey screen...
so it's not impossible for flash to work on a ppc I have done it once before but when adobe upgraded to flash 10 it stopped working like pixel's sig states "It's always something" But thanks for the input arizona

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Old 12-14-2008, 10:41 AM   #57
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Just found this---sounds definitive:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#F...%20and%20Gnash
 
Old 12-14-2008, 11:04 AM   #58
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What is it about FlashPlayer that would care about the hardware architecture (other than 32- vs 64-bit)?
The fact that Adobe compile it for x86...
If you take the source code for a program, compile it on an x86 box then try and run the resulting binary on a PPC box then it will not run. Likewise if you compile the source code, compile it on a PPC box then try and run the resulting binary on an x86 box then it will not run.
Adobe only release their Flash player in pre-compiled binary form and those binaries are compiled for x86.

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Can you give any other of examples of Linux apps where one would be concerned about this?
Anything which is only made available in pre-compiled binary form and was compiled on x86. Doom 3 for example. That comes with a Linux version on the disc so you can install and play it under Linux if you want to. But it's compiled for x86 so would be useless on PPC machines.

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At the Adobe site, the specs are ambiguous. For the Mac, there are different versions for ppc and Intel architectures. For Linux, they just say "800MHz or better".
That's because Apple used to use PPC processors in their machines. They switched to Intel x86 in 2006. A significant number of Mac users still have PPC machines so I guess Adobe feel it's worth while to still produce a PPC Mac version. By contrast PPC on Linux is a very niche market. Much smaller than x86 64 I'm sure and Adobe only got around to releasing a beta x86 64 player in the last couple of months.


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so it's not impossible for flash to work on a ppc
OK, so it's not impossible to watch some Flash content on PPC, but it IS impossible to run the Adobe Flash player on PPC. Unless maybe you used some sort of x86 emulator and ran it under that. No such emulator springs to mind though.
 
Old 12-14-2008, 10:53 PM   #59
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... but at one time I did have flash working on the distro but when they updated the adobe flash to 10 it stopped so I dont know but I will find out and somehow let you know
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hi, i occasionally use knoppix-live-cd and installing flashplayer-9 thru adobe's website used to work.
i have read somewhere that adobes install script for flashplayer-10 is fubar.

ubuntu and knoppix are both debian based; i read instructions about apt-geting flashplayer-9 from a certain debian multimedia repo gets it to work.

sorry i don't have specifics.
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...libflashplayer (post 2)

not sure how to add non-free repos to your sources.lst because i dont use apt-get much. someone else will need to help with that.
 
Old 12-15-2008, 01:34 AM   #60
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Code:
sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
that worked for me on getting a working flash player for firefox.

Just open a terminal and input the above command and it will install everything where it needs to be.
 
  


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