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Old 05-22-2012, 04:47 AM   #46
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We're talking mid-nineties...digital was a word used in the movie of Tron only back then...
Lemme dig up my ol' Fostex multitracker and put a picture online, then you'll know what I'm on about...



Sure I can, in fact, why dont I use this "nudge" as an excuse to do something else besides what i've been on about all the time...
Ah, how I miss my Muze...

Thor

Edit - I found my old multitracker, it's a Fostex X18 ...
It used cassettes to record stuff and employed a technique known as multitracking, it relied on a feature that was inherent to tapes at that time.
There was an A and a B side, both stereo - two mono tracks parrallel to each other. The Fostex (as any other multitracker) used the A side (or B side) only, that way it "looked at the tape as if it were four independent tracks. The "operator" would plug an instrument into the selected plug to record on a certain track (plug 1 for track 1 and so on) play a section, rewind (yes, tape needed to be rewound, and you had to wait until it was fully rewound), set the recorded track(s) to "play", plug the instrument into the next plug, and "play along"...
Downside, there were only four tracks. Nowadays, a medium bit of kit (PC, software and so) can get you round about 100 tracks with dozens (or more) hours of recording space...
Ahh yes, the days of cassette tapes! I remember them well. (Actually, that's pretty much what I grew up with!

Guess what?
I did the upgrade of my Ubuntu-Studio to the 12.04 version, and now I can't record anything! Aargh!!

I was "hoping" that all settings would have been saved into the new version. But lo and behold, when I rebooted: no sound from my keyboard.

I've fiddled around with the ALSA settings, and I tried checking the QJackCtl settings; but no luck.

Any suggestions? (apart from learning to make my own upgrades.. )

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Old 05-22-2012, 04:59 AM   #47
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apart from learning to make my own upgrades
Umm, it's possible, but not practical, so, let's put that one on the maybe pile...

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I did the upgrade of my Ubuntu-Studio to the 12.04 version, and now I can't record anything!
Okay, let's see what alsamixer (in the console) has on this...maybe the inputs are muted (again)...
If it's any comfort, it's the same for all distros. I just did an update and had to re-tweak the desktop just to be able to shut the box down...

Let's follow up.

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Umm, it's possible, but not practical, so, let's put that one on the maybe pile...


Okay, let's see what alsamixer (in the console) has on this...maybe the inputs are muted (again)...
If it's any comfort, it's the same for all distros. I just did an update and had to re-tweak the desktop just to be able to shut the box down...

Let's follow up.

Thor
That was fast! ..Thanks for your time, Thor!

I'm not at that PC right now, I will be tonight (in about 10 hours). I'm quite sure I've tweaked as much as possible. I checked and unchecked and rechecked those boxes at the bottom, unmuted the rear mic where the keyboard goes into (audio rather than USB for now).

Maybe it's a setting in Audacity that's keeping things muted...

We'll see tonight what more fiddling gets me...

But I will say this: when upgrades are done, they shouldn't mess with the settings. In fact, maybe it's the files that were deleted in the "clean up" stage that deleted something..


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Old 05-22-2012, 05:13 AM   #49
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Maybe it's a setting in Audacity that's keeping things muted...
Hmm, I doubt it. You could check in the update logs to see if Audacity was updated at all...

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But I will say this: when upgrades are done, they shouldn't mess with the settings. In fact, maybe it's the files that were deleted in the "clean up" stage that deleted something..
You've touched my main fear for updates...loss of funtionality...I always do updates in the weekend, so I can tweak my way out in time...

Eh, dont let it ruin your day, okay?

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Old 05-25-2012, 05:59 AM   #50
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Hmm, I doubt it. You could check in the update logs to see if Audacity was updated at all...



You've touched my main fear for updates...loss of funtionality...I always do updates in the weekend, so I can tweak my way out in time...

Eh, dont let it ruin your day, okay?

Thor
Well, a few days have passed. I wasn't happy with how the Ubuntu Studio 12.04 upgrade was behaving. So last night I made my own DVD and installed it fresh.

Now, things are behaving well. Except: no audio coming out! I can't believe it. Of all things. Ubuntu Studio. No sound after fresh install! Wow.

So I worked with the mixer settings, to no avail. In Audacity, my Motif audio in is recognized just fine. Theoretically, I could record. But I can't add tracks. And of course, I can't hear any of it through the PC itself.

Really amazing. It makes me think I should install a different distro, even if it doesn't have a low-latency kernel..

Any thoughts? How to risolve this?

Brian
 
Old 05-27-2012, 12:45 AM   #51
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Hi...

Sorry for the delay...but your challenge is somewhat weird. Okay. Maybe some ideas.
Personally, but, that's me and this approach may NOT be a good one for you: try a different distro. For my main box, I'm quite "faithfull" to the distro, but is it comes to experimntal stuff, I'm not afraid to shop around. Since the "bunti sisters are descendent from Debian, would that be an option? I guess the Studio edittion is somewhat too over-loeaded with stuff.
Is there a log that you can access with stuff that got updated? Maybe a stft-tru of that list could shed some light.
And; last but definetly not least, lemme looks around in some forums. Silly that nobody else is "looking in" some times...

Hmmm....

Thor
 
Old 05-27-2012, 11:01 AM   #52
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Hi...

Sorry for the delay...but your challenge is somewhat weird. Okay. Maybe some ideas.
Personally, but, that's me and this approach may NOT be a good one for you: try a different distro. For my main box, I'm quite "faithfull" to the distro, but is it comes to experimntal stuff, I'm not afraid to shop around. Since the "bunti sisters are descendent from Debian, would that be an option? I guess the Studio edittion is somewhat too over-loeaded with stuff.
Is there a log that you can access with stuff that got updated? Maybe a stft-tru of that list could shed some light.
And; last but definetly not least, lemme looks around in some forums. Silly that nobody else is "looking in" some times...

Hmmm....

Thor
Hi Thor (and thanks once again for your dedication to my "small issue")

I've autoremoved the "Pulseaudio" files, to avoid any backend squabbling between it and ALSA or Jack.

And it seemed to do the trick. Audacity now behaves well, even without Jack.

The issue now, is to see if the slight latency I get when I add tracks, is solvable other than trimming each one. I even asked about it on the Audacity forum, and I got a few cues as to what to look for.

So for now, don't worry! I think the solution was to

a) install Ubuntu Studio fresh, and
b) autoremove Pulseaudio. (After all, who needs a third audio manager??!)

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Old 06-02-2012, 12:39 AM   #53
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Hi Thor (and thanks once again for your dedication to my "small issue")
Hi, there too! Well, as a new home owner, I just survived a tornado of new stuff that came into view...and I got me a hollyday, the first one in years...

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install Ubuntu Studio fresh, and
As always that is the best and cleanest way to resolve this...it's also the fastest. If there is not time to pick up something new. After all, miles must be covered...

Glad to read there's music (again) ...

Thor
 
Old 07-01-2012, 06:08 AM   #54
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Hi, there too! Well, as a new home owner, I just survived a tornado of new stuff that came into view...and I got me a hollyday, the first one in years...



As always that is the best and cleanest way to resolve this...it's also the fastest. If there is not time to pick up something new. After all, miles must be covered...

Glad to read there's music (again) ...

Thor
Hi Thor!
Congrats on your new home! It's always lots of work to get settled in!

I've upgraded from Ubuntu Studio to KXStudio. WOW! Lots of neat stuff I never knew about! Apart from the Linux-based synths (Yoshimi/Zyn, Phasex, MX44, Whysynth, Xsynth, AWSynth..) there's also an app called "Festige" that runs with Wine and thereby allows you to use all the VST instruments (I use the free ones, and there are about 30 out there that are good!). So I have lots of synths at my fingertips now! Absolutely amazing..

Then I record in Ardour or Audacity. And Hydrogen is a very promising drum machine, although using QSynth I have tons of soundfont-file drumsets that are really good. And if you want a REALLY nice grand piano sound for FREE, look here:
http://www.supremepiano.com/product/piano1.html

Absolutely wonderful! Freeware is really moving ahead, folks...!

brian
 
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Hi Brian...

Sorry for the trady reply...some (great) stuff happened here that made me lose track of everything else...
At any rate, I'm glad it worked out for you. Now, all that remains is to set up a site and sell your music like Xerxes, or post it on a cloud...why not...
After all, spread the good stuff...

Thor
 
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Sorry for the trady reply...some (great) stuff happened here that made me lose track of everything else...
At any rate, I'm glad it worked out for you. Now, all that remains is to set up a site and sell your music like Xerxes, or post it on a cloud...why not...
After all, spread the good stuff...

Thor
Hi Thor!

Thanks! Xerxes is a new one.. but I know soundcloud, and jamendo, and now also kvraudio, which has lots of softsynths, even for free, that I can run through wine. Amazing! And, today I start a 6-week vacation! (unheard of in the US, but here in Italy it can happen..!)

BTW, do you have an iphone? My wife has one, and I need to install itunes to update it.


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Enjoy the time off...yes... 6 weeks, that's a lot, here (belgium) we're allowed only two weeks in one go...well, at the place where I work that is...
So, there's lotsastuff to do, and, believe me, while 6 (whole) weeks seems long...you'll run out of time

Ooo ouch, iPhone...sorry. I've got a Samsung mini, that's notwhere near iPhone. Sorry, dude...

Thor
 
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Enjoy the time off...yes... 6 weeks, that's a lot, here (belgium) we're allowed only two weeks in one go...well, at the place where I work that is...
So, there's lotsastuff to do, and, believe me, while 6 (whole) weeks seems long...you'll run out of time

Ooo ouch, iPhone...sorry. I've got a Samsung mini, that's notwhere near iPhone. Sorry, dude...

Thor
Hi Thor!!
I don't get notifications on this thread anymore for some reason, so I didn't see your post until a while back, then I got distracted till now!

I'm now using KXStudio on my desktop PC. It's absolutely wonderful. I've got 200-plus synths, samplers, soundfont/wav/gig file players, DAWs, drum machines.. everything!!

I would recommend it highly to anyone wanting to use a computer to make music. It's just amazing!

I hope to get up to your area of Europe in the fall-- my wife wants to do some antique-hunting, so we're planning..

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So...soundcloud for you as a next step .
What type of antiques? If it's books, durbuy should be a good start, a small speck somewhere in belgium where old books are the main product.

Me, I'm not making that much noise anymore...the lady takes up all my time, and I love her for it...

Wel, it seems you've got all teh angels covered, so this thread may get a lot of looks/reads but no activity anymore. you've started a thread, had a solution and it stays as a record for others to come and find a solution to a similar problem. Forums, cool stuff hey?

Thor
 
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So...soundcloud for you as a next step .
What type of antiques? If it's books, durbuy should be a good start, a small speck somewhere in belgium where old books are the main product.

Me, I'm not making that much noise anymore...the lady takes up all my time, and I love her for it...

Wel, it seems you've got all teh angels covered, so this thread may get a lot of looks/reads but no activity anymore. you've started a thread, had a solution and it stays as a record for others to come and find a solution to a similar problem. Forums, cool stuff hey?

Thor
Yes, I'd say this thread has run its course. Still, if you're feeling like a chat you can reach me at my contact email. (Angela's using it these days for clothes-hunting.. )

Many blessings!
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