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Old 11-29-2013, 09:41 AM   #1
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Question Connecting Linux Mint 15 MATE to wireless router


With a lot of help from the Linux Mint forum I have created a bootable USB and can get to the internet via an ethernet cable. However Mint won't locate and show the wireless router. Chromebook, the smartphones, and the VISTA laptop all recognized the wireless router and, once I put in the password, all was well.

Mint, however, does not even know the router is there. Has anyone else had this problem? How did you solve it?

I am a complete newbie to Linux.
 
Old 11-29-2013, 10:59 AM   #2
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Hi and welcome to Linux questions. Can you tell us what sort of PC/Laptop you are using to boot your USB stick on. Mint 15 can handle WiFi but we need to know the hardware you're running it on. Are you expecting it to connect automatically or have you had it "look" for the router?
I think Mint 15 is what I put on my wife's old Dell inspiron and it works and connects fine. Unfortunately I can't check how it's set up just now.

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Old 11-29-2013, 02:35 PM   #3
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Hi and welcome to Linux questions. Can you tell us what sort of PC/Laptop you are using to boot your USB stick on. Mint 15 can handle WiFi but we need to know the hardware you're running it on. Are you expecting it to connect automatically or have you had it "look" for the router?
I think Mint 15 is what I put on my wife's old Dell inspiron and it works and connects fine. Unfortunately I can't check how it's set up just now.

Play Bonny!

Hi!

My laptop is a Dell Inspiron 1720 running Windows Vista. My router is a Linksys Wireless G broadband router with speedbooster. Usually it just shows up under the name I assigned to it and asks for the password. The other forum thought I might need to install a driver and gave me the command "sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer b43-fwcutter". A lot of stuff ran and then returned to the terminal prompt. I was then told to unplug the ethernet cable and see if the wireless network was there. Nothing but ethernet. I rebooted from the USB drive and still no luck.

'Linux for Dummies' assumes there is a Network Manager which I can't find in Mint. The 'Linux Mint Beginners Guide' seems to assume that everything will just work. I can find no information for dealing with a cranky router.

I appreciate your help. What other information might you need?
 
Old 11-30-2013, 05:48 AM   #4
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Hi,

I've managed to have a quick look at my Wife's set-up and, I'm sorry to say, You're quite right! It's not quite as easy to find the wireless network set up manager as I thought.
However, you may have a small network icon in the bottom right of the panel which could indicate what's going on with the connection or try diging down through the menu system - I'd have expected to find the answer under Administration or Preferences but see below. Hmm...System Tools seems logical, maybe I'm not as sharp as I thought, Doh!

Menu --> System Tools --> System Settings --> Network --> Wireless.

My wife's Inspiron 6000 shows the connection to my router. Note there are a couple of "switches" to enable the connection or "Aircraft Mode" which need to be correctly configured. The panel icon mentioned before appears to show all the neighbour's routers so the scan and connection selection is probably configured from here.

Have a look and let us know how you get on. You shouldn't have to muck about with the Router, if you have changed stuff on it, check other devices can still connect.

Play Bonny!


Last edited by Soadyheid; 11-30-2013 at 05:54 AM.
 
Old 11-30-2013, 07:22 AM   #5
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Hi,

I've managed to have a quick look at my Wife's set-up and, I'm sorry to say, You're quite right! It's not quite as easy to find the wireless network set up manager as I thought.
However, you may have a small network icon in the bottom right of the panel which could indicate what's going on with the connection or try diging down through the menu system - I'd have expected to find the answer under Administration or Preferences but see below. Hmm...System Tools seems logical, maybe I'm not as sharp as I thought, Doh!

Menu --> System Tools --> System Settings --> Network --> Wireless.

My wife's Inspiron 6000 shows the connection to my router. Note there are a couple of "switches" to enable the connection or "Aircraft Mode" which need to be correctly configured. The panel icon mentioned before appears to show all the neighbour's routers so the scan and connection selection is probably configured from here.

Have a look and let us know how you get on. You shouldn't have to muck about with the Router, if you have changed stuff on it, check other devices can still connect.

Play Bonny!


Good Morning!

I think I got to the same place but by a different path: Menu-->All Applications-->Administration-->Network

Then I found "Wired Connection roaming mode enabled" I think this is the ethernet cable (eth0) which works.

There was also "Point to point connection not configured" When I checked the Properties for this there was a screen that said ppp0 connection and several places for data like Phone Number. Is this for connecting via dialup modem? Our modem is a DSL and is on all the time.

The icon in the bottom right of the main screen only shows the Ethernet connection and the opportunity to create a VPN whatever that is. When I tried to create a VPN using the data from the router, nothing happened.

What is the next step?
 
Old 12-01-2013, 06:48 AM   #7
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Hi,

Well, it looks like the WiFi card in the Inspiron 1720 isn't being recognised by Mint

However, I've found this thread in an Ubuntu forum which may help you. (Mint is based on Ubuntu so is fairly similar under the hood)

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-776626.html

It looks like the WiFi card in this particular Inspiron needs a wee bit of help to get it to work. Check out the thread and let us know how you get on.

Play Bonny!

 
Old 12-02-2013, 01:44 PM   #8
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Hi,

Well, it looks like the WiFi card in the Inspiron 1720 isn't being recognised by Mint

However, I've found this thread in an Ubuntu forum which may help you. (Mint is based on Ubuntu so is fairly similar under the hood)

http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-776626.html

It looks like the WiFi card in this particular Inspiron needs a wee bit of help to get it to work. Check out the thread and let us know how you get on.

Play Bonny!

Here is the info I got from the Ubuntu forum:

ok to start now, do you have a wired connection? if so first make all updates go into system>administration>update manager, click on check and install then, with the wired connection still pligged, go into system>administration>hardware drivers, and check if there is any wireless driver listed there, if there are, enable them, if they are not there open a aplications>accesories>terminal and type the following to reinstall b43-fwcutter: (youll need a internet connection to do this, so keep your ethernet cable plugged)

sudo aptitude purge b43-fwcutter
sudo aptitude update
sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter
make sure you answer with 'yes' when promptd if you want to fetch a firmware when you type command #3
restart your computer and check if wireless now works or appear under system>administration>hardware drivers, if not ,,post back here and well proceed with ndiswrapper

I put those commands into Terminal and still no luck. I didn't even get a yes/no prompt after Command #3. I did get problems with Vista, though, so I had to let Vista fix itself. System-->Administration-->Network still shows only the ethernet connection. Is this laptop hopeless?
 
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If you started with mint

Code:
mintwifi
is the command you should have started trouble shooting with

as well as

Code:
inxi -Fxx
Happy Trails, Rok
 
Old 12-03-2013, 08:27 AM   #10
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If you started with mint

Code:
mintwifi
is the command you should have started trouble shooting with

as well as

Code:
inxi -Fxx
Happy Trails, Rok
Good Morning!

Here is what I got with the "mint wifi" command:

CODE: * I. scanning WIFI PCI devices...
-- Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
==> PCI ID = 14e4:4311 (rev 01)
-------------------------
* II. querying ndiswrapper...
-------------------------
* III. querying iwconfig...
lo no wireless extensions.

eth0 no wireless extensions.

-------------------------
* IV. querying ifconfig...
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1d:09:b6:cb:5d
inet addr:192.168.2.101 Bcast:192.168.2.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::21d:9ff:feb6:cb5d/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:4346 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:4079 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:4530338 (4.5 MB) TX bytes:919808 (919.8 KB)
Interrupt:17

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 Metric:1
RX packets:186 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:186 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:19012 (19.0 KB) TX bytes:19012 (19.0 KB)

-------------------------
* V. querying DHCP...
Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
utility, e.g. service smbd reload

Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
Upstart job, you may also use the reload(8) utility, e.g. reload smbd
RTNETLINK answers: File exists
-------------------------
* VI. querying nslookup google.com...
Server: 192.168.1.1
Address: 192.168.1.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.228.5
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.228.14
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.228.8
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.228.9
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.228.1
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.228.7
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.228.6
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.228.0
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.228.2
Name: google.com
Address: 74.125.228.3
Name: google.com
Address
CODE

It mentions the Broadcom router but says there is no wireless there.

For "inxi -Fxx" I get:

CODE:System: Host: mint Kernel: 3.8.0-19-generic i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.7.3) Desktop: N/A Distro: Linux Mint 15 Olivia
Machine: System: Dell product: Inspiron 1720 Chassis: type: 8
Mobo: Dell model: 0UK439 Bios: Dell version: A04 date: 11/05/2007
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo CPU T5250 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 5982.92
Clock Speeds: 1: 1000.00 MHz 2: 1000.00 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) bus-ID: 00:02.0
X.Org: 1.13.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1440x900@60.0hz
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 965GM x86/MMX/SSE2 GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 9.1.1 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card: Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.8.0-19-generic
Network: Card-1: Broadcom BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX driver: b44 ver: 2.0 bus-ID: 03:00.0
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:1d:09:b6:cb:5d
Card-2: Broadcom BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN driver: b43-pci-bridge bus-ID: 0c:00.0
IF: N/A state: N/A mac: N/A
Drives: HDD Total Size: 168.2GB (1.2% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: FUJITSU_MHW2160B size: 160.0GB serial: K10BT7B2B23N
2: USB id: /dev/sdb model: USB_2.0_FD size: 8.2GB serial: AA00000000007925-0:0
Partition: ID: / size: 1004M used: 74M (8%) fs: overlayfs
RAID: System: supported: N/A
No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Unused Devices: none
Sensors: None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info: Processes: 159 Uptime: 13 min Memory: 292.3/2007.2MB Runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.7.3 Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.4 CODE

And I have no clue what all that means. It looks like an overview of everything on the computer. That "Card 2" line looks interesting. Is that where the wireless is hiding?
 
  


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