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Old 05-09-2014, 10:57 AM   #16
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@wigry, can u tell me what is it that people learn in linux ??
 
Old 05-09-2014, 11:03 AM   #17
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What is it that people learn in television? Radio? School?

Your question isn't making a whole lot of sense, if any. Do you have a more thought out question you would like to ask?
 
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:09 AM   #18
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It depends what is their goal, When I was investigating linux, my goal was not to get stuck and understand how it all is glued together. Thats why I chose Slackware, because I could trace the boot process all the way from kernel, to init to X Window System, If I wanted to customize something, then I just opened a text file with editor, changed/added lines and saw how system responded. I really liked to break my system or have some sort of a problem to solve. Once I managed to fully cofigure the system and got it up and running I just scrapped it and started all over again. I wanted to make mistakes and understand what I missed and why everything works the way it does or the opposite, why it does not work any more. So basically you need to have lots of questions regarding your computer and then go and hunt down the answers.

The beauty about computer and software is that you can always start over. Therefore it is not a problem to break your linux box to the point where you have to reinstall it. All you get from failure is an experience. Enough experience leads to success, the problem is, nobody knows how much is enough.

Question everything, because what you see in your Ubuntu box, is not so because it has to be so, but because someone in Canonical made a decision to put everything together in this particular way. You can freely alter it to your liking. Once you realize this, you are free to experiment. When you double click on some file in your Linux box, do you know why certain program opens? Find out where is the association. Not in the UI but find the file where it is written. Use text editor to make changes instead of the control panel. Bypass systems, figure out how everything is tied together, and then change those links or eliminate them altogether.

Question Everything!
 
Old 05-09-2014, 11:15 AM   #19
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I have Express edition can only create cpp or C++ executables, maybe the version i tried didn't have c.
 
Old 05-09-2014, 11:20 AM   #20
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Are you just saying random things to get replies? You don't seem to be having a conversation.

To answer all of your previous posts:

Good for you. Ubuntu is nice. Yes you could have chosen something else. You will have to research and try different distros to find the one you like most. You can learn on any distro. One is not better than another, it is just opinion.

The rest seems like random questions that have no real point.

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Old 05-09-2014, 11:22 AM   #21
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No when you create a new app in Visual Studio you have to say that you want Win32 console application and thats where you start creating pure C code with main method and all.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2...world-app-in-c
 
Old 05-09-2014, 11:22 AM   #22
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@szboardstretcher, I don't know how to give you a reply, what are the things wigry said, I want to do those, what can you do in linux or any other person who can say they know linux can do, some people i have read in forums have created their own linux Os, so what do they now, I cant really answer you what I want to know, but for a least precise answer, when newbies like me post in forums like these, i want to be like you guys who can answer any of our queries.

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Old 05-09-2014, 11:27 AM   #23
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Many people do not want to learn Linux, because all they want is to use the system at hand. Majority of smartphone users have Android in their pocket which is also Linux + fancy UI. Still all they need to know, is how to use their device without ever having to know a single thing about Linux that is always there just hidden away doing its job silently in the background.

Or OS X users are really using FreeBSD-like system with fancy UI. You don't need to be Unix guru to use OS X do you? You can as well settle with Ubuntu default layout and never open the console or do anything other than point and click and get things done and be happy about it.
 
Old 05-09-2014, 11:29 AM   #24
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I cant really answer you what I want to know
If you do not have a clear goal you can state, it is going to be difficult to accomplish anything towards it.
 
Old 05-09-2014, 11:38 AM   #25
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hmm. i get whst you are saying. So let me ask you something directly,I have installed WINE, but somehow i don't have Winetricks, WINE is completely updated, still no tricks, any solutions ??
 
Old 05-09-2014, 11:38 AM   #26
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If you want to be able to give advice to other people in these forums regarding Linux, then the easiest way is just use Linux everyday. Try to do with that Linux installation what you want. If you cant figure out how, then come ask, questions, solve the problems and in no time you start to pick up knowledge that you can share with others. No need to make special hacking, unless you want to.

So you just cannot become the linux guru out of the blue or learn to be linux guru. It comes along with you in time. It is very hard to remember the solution without having a problem. However if you have a problem and invest lots of time to solve it and finally find a solution, then you will remember. Thats how we all learned.

But as said if you are really interested in Linux internals then you can easily dig, but you need to be interested in the first place. Wish to be helpful is not a reason good enough. You need to have a strong desire to find stuff out on your own because only then you are willing to put in the effort to chase the answers.
 
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:40 AM   #27
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winetricks: how about googleing and finding out that you have to download it separately based on official wiki page?

http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
 
Old 05-09-2014, 11:41 AM   #28
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@szboardstretcher u said what the site logo looks like, prominent question then only enlightenment..
 
Old 05-09-2014, 11:50 AM   #29
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@szboardstretcher, I don't know how to give you a reply, what are the things wigry said, I want to do those, what can you do in linux or any other person who can say they know linux can do, some people i have read in forums have created their own linux Os, so what do they now, I cant really answer you what I want to know, but for a least precise answer, when newbies like me post in forums like these, i want to be like you guys who can answer any of our queries.
Here is one idea on what you should look for learn.

Set up your Linux computer in a way that you can wirelessly connect from your tablet and read, edit, copy and create new files in the computer from your mobile device.

I am sure other members here would give you some other ideas based on their experience.
 
Old 05-09-2014, 12:01 PM   #30
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@TroN-0074, thnks for that, i have something to go on and try now, thanks and i wud also also appreciate other users telling me what i shud be trying to do.
 
  


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