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Old 01-16-2004, 03:21 PM   #1
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Unhappy Cant install...


I just got an old computer to use with linux as a firewall. It has a voodoo4 vid card, amd k6-2 500mhz cpu, 8gb hd, cdrom, shuttle hot-591p motherboard. Im having trouble installing linux on it. I have mandrake 9.2. I cant even install windows xp on it. I have tried vga mode and everything. As soon as i hit enter on the install screen it will just go black and sometimes it will restart. I have pressed f1 and went into the help options and tried typing vgalo and vga16 but i still get a black screen. A couple of times it has said someing about idle tasks not synced. I have messed with stuff in the bios but i still cant get anything to install Anyone have any idea what i can do?
 
Old 01-16-2004, 04:13 PM   #2
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The error i sometimes get is:

Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill the idle task

In idle task - not syncing

This computer passed memtest btw..
 
Old 01-16-2004, 04:28 PM   #3
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Exclamation Sounds like a hardware problem...

Well, if you've tried multiple OS'es (like you said that you tried XP as well...) and nothing will install, you most likely have a hardware issue. This is especially true when the PC does things like automatically restarting at odd points. If the restarting is not always at the same point, check your cooling systems. Sometimes your CPU will reset when it gets too hot. If heat is not an issue, or if the problem is always happening at the same time during the install, which is what this sounds like, you probably have some faulty hardware. One area which seems to have a lot of problems is your RAM. I have seen a system that had bad RAM that would run, but would not install any OS once I reformatted. One easy way to check this is to run Memtest86 (www.memtest86.com) by downloading it on a PC that works and buring the *.iso to a CD (it's bootable). This test can take a good long while, though, so if you have some other RAM lying around that you *know* is good, you could always try swapping the RAM in there with good RAM and seeing what happens. If the RAM isn't the problem, then that opens it up to a whole lot of things, since it isn't as easy to troubleshoot other hardware issues.
When you say that the screen goes blank when you hit [Enter] on the install screen, which install screen are you talking about? If you're talking about where it says

boot:

and just hitting [Enter] just loads the generic VESA drivers, I suppose that Mandrake is trying to autodetect the driver and is doing it wrong, which would explain the black screen but not the reboot... Anyways, this may be something to look into anyway. Try installing using console mode, without even using VGA mode. Console mode is supported by every video card for PC (at least I've never heard of anyway to get around supporting it, since the BIOS uses console mode). If that doesn't work, you could maybe see about getting a non-3Dfx card to try, but if the problem is with the driver, this solution will probably not even be needed.
If the video card is not the problem, the next possibilities would be, unfortunately, just about everything else. It's a long shot, but you might want to see about a BIOS update. If that doesn't work, you could perhaps have an IRQ conflict, but that's pretty unlikely, since most IRQ conflicts went away with automatic IRQ assigning by the BIOS, which happened not long after the first Pentium. So you might want to check this, and you also might want to check if auto IRQ selection is enabled in BIOS, as well.
The rest of the ideas are just long shots:
-- Your mobo might just be screwed up; this happened to me a few times before. If this is the case, there really isn't much you can do short of buying a new mobo, unfortunately.
-- You could also have some really weird conflict with PCI, ISA, or AGP cards. You could try booting with no PCI/AGP/ISA cards except for the video card
-- Going along with the conflict idea, you could have a conflict with another piece of onboard hardware (like onboard audio), or an input device, but both of these are very improbable
-- Maybe you could have a power supply problem, but this would make the lock happen at different times, so, again, very improbable.
-- Your hard drive could be really, really screwed up, but if it's not writing to disk while it hangs... that doesn't make much sense either.

Try to swap out hardware with hardware that you know works, if you can; that's usually one of the best ways to troubleshoot. Also, if you've tried everything short of swapping the CPU and mobo, the problem is most likely on the mobo, since if the CPU had fatal problems, it simply wouldn't turn on.

I hope that this helps...
 
Old 01-16-2004, 04:28 PM   #4
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Have you tried a hdd confidence test? Try a "live distro" like knoppix just to see if it will work with linux. Also I wouldn't recommend use Mandrake for a firewall or router for a network ( I know you didn't say that's what it is for, but I'll assume anyways). You should use something more "light weight" like slackware or debian.
 
Old 01-16-2004, 04:30 PM   #5
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How far do you get into the install before you get the Kernel Panic message?

Also: do you get an error always at the same time during the install, or at different times?

P.S.: I know that my first post was really redundant about memtest, but I didn't know about it when I was writing my first reply...

Last edited by rcrules; 01-16-2004 at 04:32 PM.
 
Old 01-17-2004, 02:57 AM   #6
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Well it aint the vid card cause i just payed $65 for a nvidia geforce2 pci and it still did the same thing...
 
Old 01-18-2004, 02:09 AM   #7
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ok i fixed it, for some reason this computer wont run above 66mhz system speed


smoothwall rox btw, very very easy to config and install. Just burn the disc, put it in an unused computer and boot it up. With in about 1 hour and 30min i had it installed and everything configured to my liking
 
  


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