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Old 07-19-2009, 03:23 PM   #1
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Unhappy cannot use hughes sat dish (DW4000 two way) with Linux


There is reference to software that allows direcway access via linux but I cannot find it.
Ubuntu is 64 bit so I guess investing in that did not help the issue.
What is the software, where is it and what version of 32 bit linux would I need to install to use it.
I still have one empty partition waiting...
No I do not want to upgrade my modem. My account is 20 years old and grandfathered at the original monthly rate.
I cannot afford to upgrade, that would generate a new contract and shaft me.
 
Old 07-19-2009, 05:10 PM   #2
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I am not 100% sure what you are trying to say here, but I am guessing you have a satellite modem of some type that you want to connect to on your Linux (or future Linux) machine?

I am not seeing a whole lot of information about this device on Google, but it looks to be USB. What is the output of "lsusb"? What does the kernel log ("dmesg") say when you connect the modem to the computer?
 
Old 07-20-2009, 10:11 AM   #3
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Cool linux connect with usb sat modem

as with many noobs I am driven by disgust and contempt for Windows and Macroshaft in general. Much of what you ask me is greek (picture me thumbing madly through a greek-english dictionary) and I don't know how to answer - or find the answer (to value of lsusb for instance).
I do know that there was a driver project at sourceforge which is now unfindable for some reason.
I was just wondering if someone else using linux is online with Hughes Direcway and if they would be so kind as to tell me (in baby words) how they did it and what they did it with.
Thank you for your response.
i have ubuntu and freespire both. do you know what the difference is? is freespire 32 bit?

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Old 07-20-2009, 01:06 PM   #4
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We are as lost as you are (we don't know anything about "Hughes Direcway", but as MS3FGX guesses, it's probably a satellite modem of some sort).

The good news is that it may not be necessary for us to know the grim details of your satellite device. It may behave like any other networking device (here's hoping), in which case linux will have the tools required to make it work.

Some additional information please:

1] How did you connect your PC to it before: With an ethernet cable, a USB cable, a serial cable, or something else?

2] When you ran windows, did you have a static IP on the web, or did it change from time to time?

3] When you ran windows, did you need special software to connect, or just the usual windows utilities?

4] Was your connection "always on" or did you have to connect /disconnect as required.

Off Topic, but maybe relevant to future advice, do you live in a very remote area? Is broadband DSL available in your area?
Satellite has a reputation for being expensive and you say your account is 20y old. In general, the cost of internet access has fallen over the years, and you may be paying way too much if you are still on a 20y old contract.
 
Old 07-23-2009, 12:22 PM   #5
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1] How did you connect your PC to it before: With an ethernet cable, a USB cable, a serial cable, or something else?

a USB cable,

2] When you ran windows, did you have a static IP on the web, or did it change from time to time?

a static IP

3] When you ran windows, did you need special software to connect, or just the usual windows utilities?
need special software to connect

4] Was your connection "always on" or did you have to connect /disconnect as required.
connection "always on"

yes, a satellite modem.
Am in the middle of desert - no phones of any kind except cellphones. They are not very reliable.

thanks to all for all help.
 
Old 07-24-2009, 07:18 AM   #6
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OK.
As you have discovered, there's not much about this device available and linux on the web, and what there is, is bad news.

I expect you have read this interesting story
where they only managed to get it working with windows, and that needed rebooting every 6Hrs.

I think that's they way you'll have to go: Run a minimal windows installation, with a firewall and ethernet card, and set up "Internet sharing" on the windows box so your lunux box can be connected to the ethernet port.

You'll have the stability and freedom of linux, but windows will have to handle your satellite connection.
 
Old 07-25-2009, 11:11 AM   #7
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talk about adding assault to injury - it figures that the main redeeming value of windows is to access something that was 'engineered' exclusively for windows. Even worse I find that Windows xp pro 64 will NOT accept the direcway hardware as the standard xp did.
Ubuntu is fascinating the more I play with it.
I also find that windows xp pro - as with most macroshaft products, must me 'activated'. Simply paying for it and installing it with the key is not enough - you have to in effect register it twice.
I can't wait to get away from windows - everybody I know except burglars and assassins use doors... <can i get an a-men?>
now i got twenty days to figure out how to do that - and mshaft only wants sixty bucks to allow me to submit an email question!!!
for future info - win pro x64 was never released commercially - only as oem and experimental debugging installs.
no support - except at 60 bucks a pop.
GO LINUX!
 
Old 07-25-2009, 11:12 AM   #8
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Lest i forget - huge thanks and appreciation!
 
Old 07-25-2009, 12:59 PM   #9
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Maybe get yourself a second hand Asus EEE701 with XP (very cheap), and use that to control the satellite interface, keeping your 64-bit box for linux and all the fun.

Or move?
 
Old 07-25-2009, 05:38 PM   #10
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Frankly, XP64 is not that bad at all. I have owned a copy since 2006 and driver support has really improved a lot. Some companies, though, have so far managed to pretend it does not exist at all; whether it is a coincidence or not, nearly all of those are wireless network related (Netgear wirless, for example, is an absolute nightmare, having no support for neither XP64 nor Linux).
 
Old 07-26-2009, 01:07 PM   #11
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Jay37 - I know, x64 is more like what we thought we were buying to begin with. It runs like a scalded dog and is (mostly) compatible with the 'legacy' software - there are favorites for which there are no updates, upgrades or rewrites (ports?) for.
Grrrrrr.
I wonder that macroshaft didn't simply put their efforts into upgrading and improving x64 instead of going Vista on us.
(think 'postal').
I am sick and tired of their springing a new unfinished os on me before they even have the major bugs out of the last one! the incomplete leading the unfinished as it were.
I am just breaking into linux, gently - but I have hopes that it will be more satisfying an experience.

>>Vista ia a mermaid. Not enough woman to satisfy, and you can't have a fish fry with all the screaming...
 
  


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