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Old 02-18-2015, 09:08 PM   #1
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Can I uninstall cinnamon?


Okay so being the newbie with Linux I accidentally installed cinnamon to duel boot with my windows7 instead of mate. Now I ran the code to install mate along with it but I don't won't both on my computer just mate. So is there a code or something that I can run to take cinnamon off and just have mate. Sorry if this is obvious I've searched but found nothing and I'm only a day into my Linux setup. Thanks!
 
Old 02-18-2015, 09:38 PM   #2
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I assume you are referring the Mint with the Cinnamon desktop.

There is no need to remove and reinstall.

The easiest thing to do would be to install the MATE desktop to your existing install, then, at the login dialog, select MATE to be your desktop environment. Multiple desktops/window managers can coexist quite happily in the same system, and user can switch from one to another with no issues.

I'm not at my Mint machine right now, but, in the Mint Software Center, look for an item called something like "MATE meta." A "meta" package simply calls all the packages needed to install something like a desktop environment, which relies on multiple packages.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 09:46 PM   #3
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Okay I'm pretty sure I did what you said I had Linux installed with the cinnamon desktop, and I did script in the cmd and it downloaded and installed mint desktop and switched to the mint desktop at login but my computer is slow enough so I don't want the extra cinnamon desktop to take up space.
 
Old 02-18-2015, 10:08 PM   #4
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The presence of the files on your hard drive should not affect the speed of your interface, unless you are nearly out of hard drive space. When you aren't using them, they just lie there.

What is the make/model of your computer and what are its specs?

Also, what is the output of the command df in a terminal?
 
Old 02-18-2015, 10:19 PM   #5
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I'm not home at the moment but I will be in an hour and I'll get all the specs and post them then
 
Old 02-18-2015, 10:22 PM   #6
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Not sure how Mint works but removing cinnamon from Fedora causes grief. Basically it uses a lot of Gnome features so when you remove cinnamon you remove gnome as well.

As FrankBell advises, the presence of both desktops should not cause any issues so just leave it the way it is.

Alternatively, if you haven't done anything with Mint yet. Wipe & Re-install!
 
Old 02-18-2015, 10:24 PM   #7
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I'll probably be away from the computer by then, but I'm sure someone else will jump in to help.

timl, I use Mint-MATE. I think there's a lot of overlap between it and Cinnamon in terms of using Gnome underpinnings. The differences between the two desktops, as near as I can tell, are mostly in the desktop interface and the naming conventions of some applications. MATE's Caja file manager is clearly based on Nautilus, for example.

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Old 02-18-2015, 11:12 PM   #8
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Here are my specs

Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Edition
Notebook type HD display, Midsize, Budget
ManufacturerToshiba
PROCESSOR / CHIPSET
CPU Intel Celeron 900 / 2.2 GHz
Cache L2 - 1 MB
Front Side Bus 800 MHz
Chipset Mobile Intel GL40 Express
MEMORY
RAM 2 GB
Max RAM Supported 4 GB
Technology DDR3 SDRAM
Speed 800 MHz
Slots Qty 2
Empty Slots 1
STORAGE
Interface Serial ATA-150
Optical Drive DVDRW (R DL) / DVD-RAM
Read Speed 24x (CD) / 8x (DVD)
Write Speed 24x (CD) / 8x (DVDR) / 6x (DVDR DL)
Rewrite Speed 24x (CD) / 6x (DVD-RW) / 8x (DVD+RW) / 5x (DVD-RAM)
Optical Drive (2nd) none
Type portable
ENVIRONMENTAL PARAMETERS
Min Operating Temperature 41 F
Max Operating Temperature 95 F
Humidity Range Operating 20 - 80%
 
Old 02-19-2015, 12:43 AM   #9
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It doesn't show the size of the hard disk. But anyways. If you select Mate as your desktop to login with, Cinnamon won't be loaded. Or vice versa.
Your computer won't become faster if you try to delete it. You might actually end up screwing up your Linux installation.

I have Cinnamon and KDE installed on my laptop. Installed KDE after Cinnamon. And Cinnamon didn't get slower because KDE was also on the hard disk. Same with KDE, runs at full speed as well.

If you are low on disk space, then I would recommend to get the Mint Mate edition and reinstall Linux with that. Then you will only have Mate on the hard disk.
 
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Two GB RAM is marginal for a full contemporary Linux desktop environment; at best, performance would be passable. Maxing out the RAM to 4GB would likely make a world of difference in performance. More RAMs is a quick and inexpensive upgrade.

Another option would be to use a lighter desktop, such as LXDE, or even a window manager such as Fluxbox or Enlightenment (there is a debate as to whether Enlightenment is a DE or a WM; it has elements of both, but it is relatively light-weight, even compared to LXDE). I recently set up my old Dell Mini 9 netbook, which has 2GB RAM, for First Daughter, whose laptop monitor failed--I put Mint 17 on it and installed the LXDE desktop and it performed quite snappily. With MATE (I installed Mint MATE, as I prefer it to Cinnamon) it was noticeably slow.

Frankly, I would consider that machine under-powered for Windows 7, regardless of what Microsoft's minimum specs for Win7 might say.

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Old 02-20-2015, 04:58 AM   #11
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For low spec machines - XFCE desktop - IceWM - (Fluxbox/Openbox for a minimal interface)
Work well on a 1GB ram netbook.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 08:17 AM   #12
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Quote:
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Not sure how Mint works but removing cinnamon from Fedora causes grief. Basically it uses a lot of Gnome features so when you remove cinnamon you remove gnome as well.

As FrankBell advises, the presence of both desktops should not cause any issues so just leave it the way it is.

Alternatively, if you haven't done anything with Mint yet. Wipe & Re-install!
I can confirm this...back when I was on FedoraForums, Dan made a comment about uninstalling GNOME:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan
Some free advice at this point. DON'T try to ditch Gnome! If you try to remove Gnome, it can and will rip integral parts of your system out by the roots, leaving little but shredded debris and a smoking hole on your HDD! You will not have an operational system when yum gets done. For now, just leave Gnome 3 alone to stew in its own juices while you go explore your new options.

Which means ...

Log out. No reason to reboot, just log out of Gnome, and when you get back to the GDM screen, click your username, expand the "session" arrow, and have a look at your new options.
Both Cinnamon and MATE are based heavily on GNOME, so don't try to get rid of either of them.
 
Old 02-20-2015, 10:47 AM   #13
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Okay I'm pretty sure I did what you said I had Linux installed with the cinnamon desktop, and I did script in the cmd and it downloaded and installed mint desktop and switched to the mint desktop at login but my computer is slow enough so I don't want the extra cinnamon desktop to take up space.
I'd do a Virtual Machine Mint Cinnamon install and then install Mint Desktop in it before I would test this line of code.

Code:
sudo apt remove cinnamon nemo cinnamon-control-center cinnamon-screensaver mint-meta-cinnamon && apt autoremove
But if you decide not to, If you wreck it. Too bad. So Sad. Sux to be you.

There has been good suggestions here on leaving Cinnamon alone.
But a Virtual Machine install with that code I posted above would settle matters.
One way or the other.
Or a live usb with persistence maybe. > not sure about that one.
All probably above Jculby skill sets since

Quote:
being the newbie with Linux
So yeah. Leave it, (Cinnamon), be/alone, unless you are ready to see if you are the windshield or bug by crossing your fingers and going for it blindly.
Because if you wreck it. You will be looking at a clean reinstall.
Backups should always be made before trying the command I suggested also.
If done on a real machine install instead of a VM install,

Happy Trailz, Rok
 
Old 02-20-2015, 10:57 AM   #14
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Unless you absolutely need the ~300 MB of hard drive space (or thereabouts, I don't know the actual size) that's currently being taken up by Cinnamon, then just leave it, it's not slowing anything down.
 
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