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Old 10-05-2014, 08:12 AM   #1
Raakh5
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Can I see email passwords from root


Hello,

My boss wants to have check on the employees to not mis-use company emails. Our boss had a very bad experience as previously one employee did a fraud with one customer and make company deteriorated company repute.

Our dedicated server OS is:
Code:
CentOS release 6.5 (Final)
and Plesk version is:
Code:
# cat /usr/local/psa/version
11.5.30 RedHat el6 115131112.14
Is that possible to monitor passwords and all emails on the server from root?

Best regards

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Old 10-05-2014, 12:05 PM   #2
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Hello,
My boss wants to have check on the employees to not mis-use company emails. Our boss had a very bad experience as previously one employee did a fraud with one customer and make company deteriorated company repute. Our dedicated server OS is:
Code:
CentOS release 6.5 (Final)
and Plesk version is:
Code:
# cat /usr/local/psa/version 11.5.30 RedHat el6 115131112.14
Is that possible to monitor passwords and all emails on the server from root?
No, you cannot find out someones password...and if you're already root, you can change anyones password. Also, why would the version of Plesk enter into anything here??? You're asking about email passwords.

And most importantly, your question is not only suspicious, but ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS. Even IF you had someones email password, they could encrypt a file and attach it to an email, and you'd not be able to read it. They'd be able to print something and take it home, or copy it to a thumbdrive; in short, they have MANY options to commit fraud that leave NO paper trail at all. So, either your boss is a paranoid idiot, or is wanting to do something fishy.

Also, if you're the system administrator, you DO realize that you can see the email queue on the server, right??? And even with a program to scan emails, how, exactly, are you going to set that up? What words/phrases are you going to scan for? What is going to determine a mail message/sender/receiver that is going to commit fraud, versus one that is legitimate??
 
Old 10-05-2014, 12:07 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Raakh5 View Post
Hello,
My boss wants to have check on the employees to not mis-use company emails. Our boss had a very bad experience as previously one employee did a fraud with one customer and make company deteriorated company repute. Our dedicated server OS is:
Code:
CentOS release 6.5 (Final)
and Plesk version is:
Code:
# cat /usr/local/psa/version 11.5.30 RedHat el6 115131112.14
Is that possible to monitor passwords and all emails on the server from root?
No, you cannot find out someones password...and if you're already root, you can change anyones password. Also, why would the version of Plesk enter into anything here??? You're asking about email passwords.

And most importantly, your question is not only suspicious, but ABSOLUTELY POINTLESS. Even IF you had someones email password, they could encrypt a file and attach it to an email, and you'd not be able to read it. They'd be able to print something and take it home, or copy it to a thumbdrive; in short, they have MANY options to commit fraud that leave NO paper trail at all. So, either your boss is a paranoid idiot, or is wanting to do something fishy.

Also, if you're the system administrator, you DO realize that you can see the email queue on the server, right??? And even with a program to scan emails, how, exactly, are you going to set that up? What words/phrases are you going to scan for? What is going to determine a mail message/sender/receiver that is going to commit fraud, versus one that is legitimate??
 
Old 10-05-2014, 01:44 PM   #4
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To touch on what TBOne said, they passed a law declaring email as real mail & it may be considered a federal crime, even if it was your wifes email that you wanted to monitor
http://consumer.findlaw.com/online-s...-concerns.html
 
Old 10-05-2014, 02:08 PM   #5
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I can assure you that there are plenty of bosses who want to see a copy of every incoming and outgoing e-mail. Especially in (how shall I put it) less developed countries where hierarchical rules, bureaucracy and corruption is much more present than -say- in Western Europe.

Such structures are often recognized by only the highest level of management being allowed to take any decisions. The rest of the employees are simply kept to obey and that's it. The management doesn't care about federal crimes, and the employees don't know or are unsupported and unprotected anyway.

What do you do as a system administrator working in such regimes?

As for the question of the OP, most mail servers allow a configration where every outgoing mail is copied to some place and ditto for incoming mail. But you have to be root or equal to make such adjustmnents. And on LQ we don't answer questions how to get around that.

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Old 10-05-2014, 03:52 PM   #6
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Hello,

Thanks all for your favorable advice. I found the solution

Best regards
 
Old 10-05-2014, 04:22 PM   #7
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Hello,
Thanks all for your favorable advice. I found the solution
Great...so since you came to the community for help, how about sharing the solution you found????

Also, you seem to have sidestepped all of the questions/issues that were raised about doing this, and why. Without pretty solid reasons, anything you post from now on is going to be viewed with some suspicion.
 
Old 10-05-2014, 04:40 PM   #8
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Hi,

I found this link: http://www.apashley.co.uk/snippets/3...Passwords.html
 
  


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