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Old 07-04-2008, 10:32 AM   #1
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can`t boot into ubuntu- vista bootloader preventing it


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i`ve downloaded and installed ubuntu with wubi but each time i try to boot ubuntu it just loads the vista boot loader, my question is how do i change this ?
like do i fix the boot loader or remove and then fix it.... all i can see is white text when it boot up.

when the pc starts its th ebios screen then aload of white text but not normal- at least i dont think its normal- and then it asks me which one i want to boot- ubuntu or vista, each time i choose the option of ubuntu it loads all of the white text and goes back to the options screen.

now how do i remove that so i can get a shote of ubuntu

Thanks for ure help
 
Old 07-04-2008, 10:45 AM   #2
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Did you follow the steps below? There's a troubleshooting guide on theright side of the page which might help.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
 
Old 07-04-2008, 10:52 AM   #3
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yeah i had a look at the guide but i cant seam to find anything to relate to my problem and that is the bootloader
 
Old 07-04-2008, 10:57 AM   #4
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is there any way i could remove the vista boot loader and then fix/add it again ?

i`ve already tryed to put the vista cd in and then fix the boot loader but to no avail....
 
Old 07-04-2008, 02:14 PM   #5
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You could use the Super Grub Disk to repair your bootloader. Download page:
http://www.linux-beginnerforum.de/sm...22961#msg22961

Have you tried the rescue or repair function on vista?
When you installed Ubuntu, you were given options of where to install the bootloader (grub), do you know what you chose, /boot partition?, master boot record? If you did not install grub to the mbr it will be a lot more complicated to boot Ubuntu through vista's bcedit.

Here's a link dealing with vista/ubuntu boot problems.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...82#post5184182
 
Old 07-04-2008, 02:56 PM   #6
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i used wubi to install it on one of my hdd which are split 50/50 [vista/ubuntu]

and no it never asked if i wanted to install grub.and what is a mbr?

and ive tried putting in the vista dvd and useing repaireing the startup but to no avail...

thanks for ure help,

any idea how to fix this because i really really want to try out linux but cant get it to work.

thanks
 
Old 07-04-2008, 04:19 PM   #7
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My wubi install to Vista uses the Windows bootloader to let me choose Vista or Ubuntu.
 
Old 07-04-2008, 04:21 PM   #8
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mine lets me choose too but each time i select ubuntu the white writeing before the options comes up and then goes back to the selection screen :S
 
Old 07-04-2008, 04:37 PM   #9
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If you run the command prompt as administrator in Vista and type "bcdedit", do you have an entry similar to this:

Real-mode Boot Sector
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identifier { <bunch of numbers and letters> }
device partition=C:
path \ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr
description Ubuntu
 
Old 07-04-2008, 04:43 PM   #10
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hes i have a heading with "Windows Boot Manager" [too much to type]

"windows boot loader"

and

"Real-mode boot sector"
 
Old 07-04-2008, 04:53 PM   #11
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Is your Ubuntu installation located where your bootloader thinks it is?
I do have a file at C:\ubuntu\winboot\wubildr.mbr as my bootloader thinks.
In C:\ubuntu\disks\ there is a root.disk and swap.disk of the sizes I created.
 
Old 07-04-2008, 04:59 PM   #12
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yes i have them files where the command propt tells me that i should have them :S

i phoned up my friend and he was the one that installed vista for me... and he told me that the vista is cracked and that there is a bootloader as the crack and that it might that thats stopen the linux from booting....

so how would u remove that crack bootloader thing ? cos i will go and buy a genuine version of vista if that is the case and hopefully finaly be able to get linux to work
 
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Have you tried downloading SuperGrubDisk? It is pretty good at fixing boot problems for Linux or windows. Small download and handy to have.

It' been a while since I installed Ubuntu but almost every Linux distribution gives you an option to install the bootloader (grub in this case) either to the /boot directory of your partition or the mbr (master boot record). It's almost always the last thing you do on the install but I've never used wubi so...?

There is also a free download called EasyBCD here http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1 which should help to edit your BCDEdit file.
 
Old 07-04-2008, 08:48 PM   #14
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Quote:
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Have you tried downloading SuperGrubDisk? It is pretty good at fixing boot problems for Linux or windows. Small download and handy to have.
Looks great for anything except a wubi install of an image file to NTFS. Perhaps there is a way for supergrub to be able to work with NTFS?
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It' been a while since I installed Ubuntu but almost every Linux distribution gives you an option to install the bootloader (grub in this case) either to the /boot directory of your partition or the mbr (master boot record). It's almost always the last thing you do on the install but I've never used wubi so...?
Wubi installs Ubuntu to an image file inside an NTFS filesystem and (usually) configures the Windows bootloader to boot grub to boot Linux.
If fullmetaljacket wishes to post the actual output of the "bcdedit" command, rather than "too much to type", there may be a clue. (There are a couple ways to copy and paste this.)
He may also be correct that a hack is causing the problem.

Last edited by 2damncommon; 07-04-2008 at 08:50 PM.
 
Old 07-04-2008, 08:51 PM   #15
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persoanly i think it is the hack thats doing it...

how would i be able to like remove the hack and the bootloader [w/o to format the hdd] and then like reinstall the proper bootloader ?

cheers
 
  


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