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Old 01-24-2015, 02:57 AM   #16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregg Bell View Post
Hey jross. I think I did a long time ago but then I also think I deleted it. Are you sure I need it? (I'm thinking of going with the VLC player and getting rid of the Parole/Prison thing.)
This is how it is described in the software center: "Commonly used applications with restricted copyright (mp3, avi, mpeg, TrueType, Java, Flash)" So it does list avi there.

I'm really confused as to what version of xubuntu you have. I thought it was 14.10 but now it looks like 13.10?

I have 14.04 (I would not recommend 14.10 just because the reviews were not too nice to the 14.10's and so with the 14.04 you have a more stable system with long term support. Also, the 13.10 is out of support so that is not an option).

In 14.04, there is one bug of Parole I know of; it won't play audio CD's. Here's the bug report with an easy fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...e/+bug/1322384

I can't understand why they haven't issued an update since the fix is known and quite simple.
 
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Old 01-24-2015, 09:31 AM   #17
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Fair enough Jross. Parole is not a huge install from what I can see. So it won't hurt to keep it.

Code:
$ apt search parole
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
parole/trusty-updates 0.6.1-0ubuntu3.1 i386
  media player based on GStreamer framework

parole-dev/trusty-updates 0.6.1-0ubuntu3.1 i386
  development files for Parole media player

xfce4-goodies/trusty,now 4.10 i386 [installed]
  enhancements for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment
At Gregg Bell. When and Why did you add

Quote:
## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
## 'partner' repository.
## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the
## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
# deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu saucy partner
deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu saucy partnerr
Disable that line in your sources.list since you added it <wrong thing to do>
Then

Code:
sudo apt-get update
in terminal. Then try installing VLC again. Your sources.list looks like it is from the twilight zone movie.

Quote:
# deb cdrom:[Xubuntu 13.10 _Saucy Salamander_ - Release i386 (20131016)]/ saucy main multiverse restricted universe
Code:
$ cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l
$ uname -a
Linux OptiPlex-170L 3.16.0-29-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 15 22:28:14 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
Quote:
LZM, did not know I was using 13.10 stuff. (I was tricked! Somebody must've slipped them in there when I wasn't looking!)
Don'r tell me you loan out you gear and they have sudo access. I have playtoy Linux Desktop Computers that I let motorcycle customer and friends use. However. Their user name is scooter tramp and they have no sudo or root privideges
on those computers. Only I have total control on those.

Last edited by rokytnji; 01-24-2015 at 09:33 AM.
 
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Old 01-24-2015, 02:43 PM   #18
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Agree with rokytnji's suggestion to disable the saucy source.
Are you comfortable with any console-based text editor? Because you'll have to edit the file with root privileges, so e.g.
Code:
sudo <editor command of your choice> /etc/apt/sources.list
For beginners, I recommend nano. If you don't have it, you can install it with
Code:
sudo apt-get install nano
Then edit the sources list by
Code:
nano /etc/apt/sources.list
To "disable" the line
Code:
deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu saucy partner
just prepend it by a # like the ones above:
Code:
#deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu saucy partner
Save and exit nano by ctrl-o and then ctrl-x.

Finally, as rokytnji said
Code:
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
and post the output please.

Last edited by joe_2000; 01-24-2015 at 02:44 PM. Reason: forgot sudo in first command
 
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Old 01-24-2015, 02:45 PM   #19
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P.s: As far as the 13.10 stuff is concerned I am assuming that 13.10 was installed and then upgraded. The upgrade procedure is sometimes making some mistakes like that. Which is why I typically go for fresh reinstalls.
 
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Old 01-26-2015, 08:25 PM   #20
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Quote:
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P.s: As far as the 13.10 stuff is concerned I am assuming that 13.10 was installed and then upgraded. The upgrade procedure is sometimes making some mistakes like that. Which is why I typically go for fresh reinstalls.
Hi Joe, Here's out it played out. I THOUGHT I had Xubuntu 14.04 (the short term one that needs to be updated every six months). But when I checked I was very surprised to find that I had the long-term version. Namely this:

Distributor: Ubuntu
14.04.1 LTS
Release 14.04
code name trusty
debian
i686 GNU/Linux

I wanted to get the every six month upgrades and wondered why I didn't get the notice to upgrade. A friend told me my computer was too old to get the notices and gave me this (to get the upgrade notices):

gksu update-manager -d

I ran the command. It gave me the upgrade notice and I did the upgrade. When the upgrade was over I THOUGHT I had 14.10 (the upgrade every six months version).

Then the first I heard of the 13.10 thing was from you guys.
 
Old 01-26-2015, 08:32 PM   #21
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This is how it is described in the software center: "Commonly used applications with restricted copyright (mp3, avi, mpeg, TrueType, Java, Flash)" So it does list avi there.

I'm really confused as to what version of xubuntu you have. I thought it was 14.10 but now it looks like 13.10?

I have 14.04 (I would not recommend 14.10 just because the reviews were not too nice to the 14.10's and so with the 14.04 you have a more stable system with long term support. Also, the 13.10 is out of support so that is not an option).

In 14.04, there is one bug of Parole I know of; it won't play audio CD's. Here's the bug report with an easy fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...e/+bug/1322384

I can't understand why they haven't issued an update since the fix is known and quite simple.
Hey jross. Went and got the restricted extras (it wasn't installed). Thanks. I'm going to hold off on the Parole bug fix for now because it's looking like I might be going with the VLC player.
 
Old 01-26-2015, 08:55 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by rokytnji View Post
Fair enough Jross. Parole is not a huge install from what I can see. So it won't hurt to keep it.

Code:
$ apt search parole
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
parole/trusty-updates 0.6.1-0ubuntu3.1 i386
  media player based on GStreamer framework

parole-dev/trusty-updates 0.6.1-0ubuntu3.1 i386
  development files for Parole media player

xfce4-goodies/trusty,now 4.10 i386 [installed]
  enhancements for the Xfce4 Desktop Environment
At Gregg Bell. When and Why did you add



Disable that line in your sources.list since you added it <wrong thing to do>
Then

Code:
sudo apt-get update
in terminal. Then try installing VLC again. Your sources.list looks like it is from the twilight zone movie.



Code:
$ cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l
$ uname -a
Linux OptiPlex-170L 3.16.0-29-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 15 22:28:14 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux


Don'r tell me you loan out you gear and they have sudo access. I have playtoy Linux Desktop Computers that I let motorcycle customer and friends use. However. Their user name is scooter tramp and they have no sudo or root privideges
on those computers. Only I have total control on those.
Thanks rokytnji. Was just joking about being tricked.

As far as this:

## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from Canonical's
## 'partner' repository.
## This software is not part of Ubuntu, but is offered by Canonical and the
## respective vendors as a service to Ubuntu users.
# deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu saucy partner
deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu saucy partnerr


I don't know what that stuff is or when and why I put it there. (Probably I was taking someone's suggestions for something else.)

Disable that line in your sources.list since you added it

Sorry but I don't know how to do this. (I Googled it and it just looked over my head.) Which line are you referring to by "that line"? Remember I'm a newbie! Maybe you could spell it out step-by-step what I need to do?

I'm going to hold off on the sudo update bit and getting VLC again until I get this source list thing done.

And what did you mean by:

Your sources.list looks like it is from the twilight zone movie.

Are things that screwed up? Maybe I should just do what Joe suggested and do a fresh install? (I don't know. I'm just speculating.)

Okay, I just glanced at Joe's post. I can see he's detailing how to do the disabling of the line. I'll take a look at his post closer and maybe come back and try the VLC thing and other things.

And I don't know what I was supposed to do (or what they meant) with those last two highlighted things. (The one that starts: # deb cdrom

and the other one that starts: $ cat /etc/issue

Or maybe I'm not supposed to do anything with them and you were just pointing something out, but if so, I don't know what you were pointing out.
 
Old 01-26-2015, 09:10 PM   #23
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Or maybe I'm not supposed to do anything with them and you were just pointing something out, but if so, I don't know what you were pointing out.
Just comment out that one line like I suggested. I thanked joe 2000 for showing you how.


Then sudo apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade like he said.

Then when done. Reboot in case you get a new kernel. Then proceed to the vlc install last.

I am on my Chrome Book presently which has no VLC offerings from Google store yet (that I know of).
So not much help other than in terminal you can learn something new by using

Code:
 apt search vlc
But the software center or synaptic was made to order for new users like you. So use those instead to install VLC.
 
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:59 PM   #24
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Quote:
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Agree with rokytnji's suggestion to disable the saucy source.
Are you comfortable with any console-based text editor? Because you'll have to edit the file with root privileges, so e.g.
Code:
sudo <editor command of your choice> /etc/apt/sources.list
For beginners, I recommend nano. If you don't have it, you can install it with
Code:
sudo apt-get install nano
Then edit the sources list by
Code:
nano /etc/apt/sources.list
To "disable" the line
Code:
deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu saucy partner
just prepend it by a # like the ones above:
Code:
#deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu saucy partner
Save and exit nano by ctrl-o and then ctrl-x.

Finally, as rokytnji said
Code:
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
and post the output please.

Okay, did all this stuff with Nano. Here's what happened when I ran sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

gregory@OptiPlex-170L:~/Desktop$ cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu 14.10 \n \l

gregory@OptiPlex-170L:~/Desktop$ nano
gregory@OptiPlex-170L:~/Desktop$ nano /etc/apt/sources.list
gregory@OptiPlex-170L:~/Desktop$ sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[sudo] password for gregory:
gregory@OptiPlex-170L:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease
Get:1 http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg [198 B]
Get:2 http://dl.google.com stable Release [1,347 B]
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic InRelease
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-updates InRelease
Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-backports InRelease
Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com utopic InRelease
Ign http://security.ubuntu.com utopic-security InRelease
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic Release.gpg
Get:3 http://dl.google.com stable/main i386 Packages [1,198 B]
Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-updates Release.gpg [933 B]
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-backports Release.gpg
Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com utopic Release.gpg
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic Release
Get:5 http://security.ubuntu.com utopic-security Release.gpg [933 B]
Get:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-updates Release [62.0 kB]
Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com utopic Release
Get:7 http://security.ubuntu.com utopic-security Release [62.0 kB]
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-backports Release
Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en_US
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic/main Sources
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic/restricted Sources
Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en
Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com utopic/main Sources
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic/universe Sources
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic/multiverse Sources
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic/main i386 Packages
Hit http://extras.ubuntu.com utopic/main i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic/restricted i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic/universe i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic/multiverse i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic/main Translation-en
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic/multiverse Translation-en
Get:8 http://security.ubuntu.com utopic-security/main Sources [37.7 kB]
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic/restricted Translation-en
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic/universe Translation-en
Get:9 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-updates/main Sources [62.9 kB]
Get:10 http://security.ubuntu.com utopic-security/restricted Sources [2,107 B]
Get:11 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-updates/restricted Sources [2,107 B]
Get:12 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-updates/universe Sources [11.8 kB]
Get:13 http://security.ubuntu.com utopic-security/universe Sources [7,066 B]
Get:14 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-updates/multiverse Sources [723 B]
Get:15 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-updates/main i386 Packages [160 kB]
Get:16 http://security.ubuntu.com utopic-security/multiverse Sources [723 B]
Get:17 http://security.ubuntu.com utopic-security/main i386 Packages [110 kB]
Get:18 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-updates/restricted i386 Packages [8,438 B]
Get:19 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-updates/universe i386 Packages [63.9 kB]
Get:20 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-updates/multiverse i386 Packages [2,246 B]
Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com utopic/main Translation-en_US
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-updates/main Translation-en
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-updates/multiverse Translation-en
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-updates/restricted Translation-en
Ign http://extras.ubuntu.com utopic/main Translation-en
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-updates/universe Translation-en
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-backports/main Sources
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-backports/restricted Sources
Get:21 http://security.ubuntu.com utopic-security/restricted i386 Packages [8,438 B]
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-backports/universe Sources
Get:22 http://security.ubuntu.com utopic-security/universe i386 Packages [47.2 kB]
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-backports/multiverse Sources
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-backports/main i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-backports/restricted i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-backports/universe i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-backports/multiverse i386 Packages
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-backports/main Translation-en
Get:23 http://security.ubuntu.com utopic-security/multiverse i386 Packages [2,246 B]
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-backports/multiverse Translation-en
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-backports/restricted Translation-en
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com utopic-security/main Translation-en
Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com utopic-backports/universe Translation-en
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com utopic-security/multiverse Translation-en
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com utopic-security/restricted Translation-en
Hit http://security.ubuntu.com utopic-security/universe Translation-en
Fetched 656 kB in 15s (41.7 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
libqt4-webkit wine-mono4.5.2
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
flashplugin-installer google-chrome-stable libjasper1 oxideqt-codecs-extra
4 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 49.5 MB of archives.
After this operation, 4,096 B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable/main google-chrome-stable i386 40.0.2214.93-1 [48.5 MB]
Get:2 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ utopic-updates/main libjasper1 i386 1.900.1-debian1-2ubuntu0.2 [135 kB]
Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ utopic-updates/multiverse flashplugin-installer i386 11.2.202.440ubuntu0.14.10.1 [7,266 B]
Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ utopic-updates/main oxideqt-codecs-extra i386 1.4.2-0ubuntu0.14.10.1 [848 kB]
Fetched 49.5 MB in 22s (2,218 kB/s)
Preconfiguring packages ...
(Reading database ... 229573 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../google-chrome-stable_40.0.2214.93-1_i386.deb ...
Unpacking google-chrome-stable (40.0.2214.93-1) over (40.0.2214.91-1) ...
Preparing to unpack .../libjasper1_1.900.1-debian1-2ubuntu0.2_i386.deb ...
Unpacking libjasper1:i386 (1.900.1-debian1-2ubuntu0.2) over (1.900.1-debian1-2ubuntu0.1) ...
Preparing to unpack .../flashplugin-installer_11.2.202.440ubuntu0.14.10.1_i386.deb ...
Unpacking flashplugin-installer (11.2.202.440ubuntu0.14.10.1) over (11.2.202.438ubuntu0.14.10.1) ...
Preparing to unpack .../oxideqt-codecs-extra_1.4.2-0ubuntu0.14.10.1_i386.deb ...
Unpacking oxideqt-codecs-extra:i386 (1.4.2-0ubuntu0.14.10.1) over (1.3.4-0ubuntu0.14.10.1) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.55ubuntu1.1) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.22-1ubuntu2) ...
Processing triggers for gnome-menus (3.10.1-0ubuntu2) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.0.2-2) ...
Processing triggers for update-notifier-common (3.157) ...
flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/pa...40.orig.tar.gz
Get:1 http://archive.canonical.com/pool/pa...40.orig.tar.gz [14.2 MB]
Fetched 14.2 MB in 10s (1,408 kB/s)
Installing from local file /var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.440.orig.tar.gz
Flash Plugin installed.
Setting up google-chrome-stable (40.0.2214.93-1) ...
Setting up libjasper1:i386 (1.900.1-debian1-2ubuntu0.2) ...
Setting up flashplugin-installer (11.2.202.440ubuntu0.14.10.1) ...
Setting up oxideqt-codecs-extra:i386 (1.4.2-0ubuntu0.14.10.1) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.19-10ubuntu2.2) ...
gregory@OptiPlex-170L:~/Desktop$

Also as rokytnji suggested, when I got done I did a reboot and this time when the computer came up there was no tumbler crash report. So that's got to be good.

On the paranoid side of things, before I rebooted there was a software update that I chose 'remind me later' and that did not come up with the reboot.

But I think things are looking good. Does that data say that I have a legitimate 14.10 (very 6 months renewable) now? (not the long term 5 year thing).

I'm going to give the VLC player a shot now.

Thanks Joe.
 
Old 01-26-2015, 11:09 PM   #25
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Just comment out that one line like I suggested. I thanked joe 2000 for showing you how.


Then sudo apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade like he said.

Then when done. Reboot in case you get a new kernel. Then proceed to the vlc install last.

I am on my Chrome Book presently which has no VLC offerings from Google store yet (that I know of).
So not much help other than in terminal you can learn something new by using

Code:
 apt search vlc
But the software center or synaptic was made to order for new users like you. So use those instead to install VLC.
Thanks rokytnji. Got the VLC from the Ubuntu Software Center and it works perfectly! Really appreciate all the help!!
 
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But I think things are looking good. Does that data say that I have a legitimate 14.10 (very 6 months renewable) now? (not the long term 5 year thing).
Yeah, the dist-upgrade pulled in the newer Ubuntu release. You are now part of the testing cycle (every 6 months).

You might become the windsheild. You might become the bug. You started at 13.10 which in my sig covers
what I find in threads mostly.

Everything looks good. Do not sweat the install later. It will come up eventually. Go ahead with the VLC install now.

Edit: just saw your reply. Glad .avi works now.

2nd Edit: after re-reading the thread. You have been running 14.10 Utopic from the beginning. So nothing has been really changed. Just brought up to date is all. When the new testing comes out. You can keep dist-upgrading to get the next version (after 6 months). No need for a reinstall.

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Old 01-26-2015, 11:29 PM   #27
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Yeah, the dist-upgrade pulled in the newer Ubuntu release. You are now part of the testing cycle (every 6 months).

You might become the windsheild. You might become the bug. You started at 13.10 which in my sig covers
what I find in threads mostly.

Everything looks good. Do not sweat the install later. It will come up eventually. Go ahead with the VLC install now.

Edit: just saw your reply. Glad .avi works now.

2nd Edit: after re-reading the thread. You have been running 14.10 Utopic from the beginning. So nothing has been really changed. Just brought up to date is all. When the new testing comes out. You can keep dist-upgrading to get the next version (after 6 months). No need for a reinstall.
Very very very cool. I'm glad to be in good shape now and when 15.4 rolls along. Thanks so much for all the help. It's tremendously appreciated!
 
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One comment on the 6months vs 5 years thing though.
First of all, a dist-upgrade will not automatically bring you to the next release, it will only update your software with the latest updates for the current release.

If you want to upgrade to the next release, there are two ways:
1) Change your sources list (the File you edited with nano) to point to the sources of the new release. (In this case, you had on line in your sources still pointing to an old release). Then run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade.
2) Through the gui update manager you'll be notified as new releases become available. Then you can choose to upgrade to next release.

One word of caution though: These upgrades frequently cause breakages (like the one you have just seen). Being on an LTS release that has 5 years support time is a good thing! You get security updates for a long period of time without having to go through the hassle of system updates...
The only reason to go with the 6 months release cycle is if you always want to run the latest versions of software.
 
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Old 01-27-2015, 01:38 PM   #29
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One comment on the 6months vs 5 years thing though.
First of all, a dist-upgrade will not automatically bring you to the next release, it will only update your software with the latest updates for the current release.

If you want to upgrade to the next release, there are two ways:
1) Change your sources list (the File you edited with nano) to point to the sources of the new release. (In this case, you had on line in your sources still pointing to an old release). Then run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade.
2) Through the gui update manager you'll be notified as new releases become available. Then you can choose to upgrade to next release.

One word of caution though: These upgrades frequently cause breakages (like the one you have just seen). Being on an LTS release that has 5 years support time is a good thing! You get security updates for a long period of time without having to go through the hassle of system updates...
The only reason to go with the 6 months release cycle is if you always want to run the latest versions of software.
Thanks for the heads-up, Joe. You know, I'm not a computer person. I enjoy pulling stuff off (with lots of help from you and others) now and then, but it's been taking up more and more of my time, and the LTS is looking more and more appealing. (And ironically, I had it and got rid of it.) I'm not a cutting edge software guy but I suppose (being a writer) I would like the latest version of LibreOffice and writer-type software (Sigil & Calibre). So would those few needs exclude me from getting the LTS? Because I'm really ready to go LTS.

I thought the every-six-months upgrades would be super-simple. And why not have the latest stuff. It seemed like no-brainer. But like I said I'm a writer, not a computer enthusiast.

And I guess if I can get the latest LibreOffice, Sigil, Calibre etc. with LTS, the next question would be, how do I get back to having LTS?
 
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how do I get back to having LTS?
Backup and Re-install. Simple. For some. Not for others.
 
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