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Old 02-21-2008, 04:22 PM   #1
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Exclamation can't copy files from root


Ladies & Gentlemen

I am trying to migrate my kmail setup from a desktop to my laptop. I have succeeded in moving all the files and getting the ownership and permissions right I think except for what seam to be account spec files for the servers relating to each email account. Some of the files I had to take possession of as root to be able to copy them to the laptop and the chown -R user:user /a/dir to be able to have kmail on the laptop use them.

The file names for the ones I can't move to the laptop look something like
user@myemail.com:@some.server.net:995

I have taken possession of these files as root on the desktop and save them to a shared folder that I can access from the laptop. From the laptop I can select the files but when I try to save them on the laptop I get an error message that says access denied. This is the root account how come access is denied?

I have looked on google but I didn't find where anyone else was having this problem.

What am I missing?

It must be one of those stupid things. I did spend an hour or so trying to mount my bluetooth adapter as my thumb drive today. Then I noticed I had the wrong usb thingy in my hand. Duh. Boy do I feel stupid.

Thanks.
 
Old 02-21-2008, 05:25 PM   #2
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Hmmm ... which method are you using for the "but when I try to save them on the laptop"
bit, which user are you doing this as?


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Old 02-21-2008, 05:37 PM   #3
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I am doing this through Thunar as root. (kmenu>run>thunar as root) I have not tried to do it from the command line.

The other files I had to take possession of as root, I had to save first in a different folder on the desktop before I could copy them to the laptop. But that didn't work for these.
 
Old 02-21-2008, 05:43 PM   #4
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I thought it might have something to do with kmail being running when I first tried but I shut it down and that didn't change it.
 
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How is that network share being accessed? Thunar means nothing to me.
Is it samba, nfs, something else?


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Old 02-21-2008, 08:09 PM   #6
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Thanks Tinkster forgot to mention that thanks before, sorry.

I am accessing the network share via samba. Thunar is a gtk file browser. A lot faster than konqueror.

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Old 02-22-2008, 02:06 PM   #7
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More info:

I have tried to copy these files onto a usb thumb drive (windows format) and the desktop system won't let me. I can however copy them where ever I want to on the desktop. Still no success copying these (desktop)root owned file to the laptop with the (laptop)root account.

I do understand, I think, about the thumb drive because it's file system has no way to preserve the r/w bits for the files.

Still puzzled as to why the (laptop)root account, which can read the files on the desktop, can't save them on the laptop?

Thoughts?
 
Old 02-22-2008, 02:16 PM   #8
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Although I can see the files from as a normal user I can't open them. They are owned by root, must be why. The permissions are reported as [-rw--w--w-]. I can change these on the desktop from root but not from the laptop. I am unable to look at the contents (they are just text files) from root either.
 
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Sorry my friend, but you're just confusing me :}

Why don't you try to use scp instead?
Become root on the laptop, go to the location where you
want the files to end up
cd /path/to/target
scp -pr root@desktop:/path/to/files .

And then chown the files on the laptop to the user
they're meant to be owner by.
chown -R user:group /path/to/target/files



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Old 02-22-2008, 02:41 PM   #10
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I have tried renaming them on the desktop but I still can't copy them to the laptop.

I have opened them in a root text editor and copied the contents to a normal user text editor and saved the file and it disappears into cyberspace somewhere.

There has to be some kind of bit set that I don't know about.
 
Old 02-22-2008, 03:10 PM   #11
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Thanks again Tinkster

Something must be wrong with the command I am trying to use
Code:
Kingbee:/home/kingbee/.kde/share/apps/kmail# scp -pr root@192.168.0.245:/home/rbees/.kde/share/apps/kmail
because it keeps spiting out the scp usage info.

I have tried the -4 option for ip4 addresses only and get the same thing.

Am I correct in assuming that this will overwrite the existing files?

Thanks.
 
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The problem is omitting the . at the end.
Code:
scp -pr root@192.168.0.245:/home/rbees/.kde/share/apps/kmail .
And yes, it will overwrite existing files w/o a warning.


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Old 02-22-2008, 04:22 PM   #13
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Thanks again Tinkster

I need a . at the end? Never saw that before. I did a little looking on google and looked at a couple of other examples and came to the conclusion that I should be doing this from the desktop and not the laptop where the files needed to end up and I had immediate success without a . at the end.

Thanks again Tinkster for pointing out scp to me. It worked very well. I recopied all of the files for kmail again just to be sure. I did notice as I was looking over the files while chown'ing them that some of them were still owned by the laptop user from the previous attempts. Not a complete overwrite?

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