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Old 11-30-2013, 08:35 AM   #16
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Quote:
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I am curious, and this may not have anything to do with it, but why are you doing all this as root in /usr/local/src (Yes, the slackbuilds are run later as root, I know, I do all them from home folder I call builds, and run as root)? I have always done my c programs as normal user in my home directory in a subfolder I name bin, using a straight normal full install of Slackware and have never had an issue. Is this just a stock Slackware install you are using?
So as a normal user in which directory should i have to compile and install packages?? If any link explaining the proper usage of compiling and installing the packages or to test packages without installing them, would be pleasing!!
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Have you installed Slackware64 or the 32 bit version? And if the 64, are you multi-lib?
Slackware 32 full installation
 
Old 11-30-2013, 08:43 AM   #17
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So as a normal user in which directory should i have to compile and install packages?? If any link explaining the proper usage of compiling and installing the packages or to test packages without installing them, would be pleasing!!

Slackware 32 full installation
No. When you download slackbuilds you would unpack the slackbuild as user, and then run the slackbuild as root, so you are correct, you run that as root. I always keep packages in my home directory. I unpack them, then cd into the directory created from unpacking the slackbuild. I su - into root and then run the slackbuild. When it is done, still as root, I installpkg /tmp/name-of-packge and then when done, I exit root back to normal user.

For anything I write, I do it in my home direcory, just wirte the program, save it, compile it and run it all as a normal user. You do not have to run make and install on it.

I was asking for the testing why you are using root to compile a small c program, that is all. I have installed and run slackware many times and still use it on another pc. I have never had a problem compiling c programs using a stock install, a full install, of Slackware.

Last edited by jkirchner; 11-30-2013 at 09:11 AM.
 
Old 11-30-2013, 10:02 AM   #18
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No. When you download slackbuilds you would unpack the slackbuild as user, and then run the slackbuild as root, so you are correct, you run that as root. I always keep packages in my home directory. I unpack them, then cd into the directory created from unpacking the slackbuild. I su - into root and then run the slackbuild. When it is done, still as root, I installpkg /tmp/name-of-packge and then when done, I exit root back to normal user.

For anything I write, I do it in my home direcory, just wirte the program, save it, compile it and run it all as a normal user. You do not have to run make and install on it.
Exactly the same is I do..

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I was asking for the testing why you are using root to compile a small c program, that is all. I have installed and run slackware many times and still use it on another pc. I have never had a problem compiling c programs using a stock install, a full install, of Slackware.
Actually I was trying to compile the package in usr/local/src. So hand in hand I did checking of the c prog. thats all. But I am still curious and confused when I do check them in any directory it results
Code:
slacker@slappisMekaniker:~/Documents$ gcc simple.c
\simple.c:1:19: fatal error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
slacker@slappisMekaniker:~/Documents$
 
Old 12-02-2013, 04:23 PM   #19
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It looks like two failures to check
1. gcc cannot find <stdio.h>
2. gcc cannot write output files


To verify this compile this even simpler program that does not access any include.


int main( void )
{
int i = 1234;
return i;
}

Do this in your home directory, so there are no permissions problems.
>> gcc simpler.c -o simpler.o
>> gcc simpler.o -o simpler
>> ./simpler


Are going to need specifics about the gcc install now.

Exactly which version of Slackware is this.


Exactly what version of gcc is this.
>> gcc --version

Which gcc packages got installed
>> ls /var/log/packages/*gcc*

>> ls /var/log/packages/*include*


I expect that you have a Slackware that is newer than mine, and the developers
could have done something strange with the include location, so your will have to get a response from someone with that same gcc package installed.

The default answer is to uninstall the gcc and include files (removepkg) and then re-install them using pkgtool. There is also a reinstallpkg option. The package should install them in the correct location for the gcc. Sometimes the last step runs a script and that may fail due to conflicts. But the location of files is kept in a tar file with the entire directory structure, so it is hard for it to make a mistake.
I expect that something is crossed up like having the wrong gcc, or maybe you added a later package with a different gcc that corrupted the install of the Slackware supplied gcc.
 
Old 12-03-2013, 01:01 PM   #20
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stdio.h is part of the C-lib, not part of gcc.
The headers like stdio.h must match the implementation of the C-lib.
Any header files that are part of gcc will redirect to the C-lib headers.
Look at the gcc header files, they are short, have a few tests and have a #include of the actual C-lib header.
I expect that something is seriously wrong with your C-lib (glibc) package installation.
It may have been in two parts, glibc and glibc-dev, and you need the dev part too.

Slackware uses glibc (GNU-C-library).
Do not switch to a different C-lib package.
Everything in the Slackware distribution is linked against the particular version of glibc that came with that Slackware.
If you must update the C-lib, it is much safer to get a newer release of Slackware.
I did manage to update glibc from an updated package from Slackware.

>> ls /var/log/packages/*gcc*
>> ls /var/log/packages/*libc*


My stdio, as installed by Slackware

>> grep stdio /var/log/packages/* | grep libc

/s9/var/log/packages/glibc-2.13-i486-4:usr/include/stdio.h
/s9/var/log/packages/glibc-2.13-i486-4:usr/include/bits/stdio.h
/s9/var/log/packages/glibc-2.13-i486-4:usr/include/bits/stdio2.h
/s9/var/log/packages/glibc-2.13-i486-4:usr/include/bits/stdio-ldbl.h
/s9/var/log/packages/glibc-2.13-i486-4:usr/include/bits/stdio-lock.h
/s9/var/log/packages/glibc-2.13-i486-4:usr/include/bits/stdio_lim.h
/s9/var/log/packages/glibc-2.13-i486-4:usr/include/stdio_ext.h

Last edited by selfprogrammed; 12-03-2013 at 01:25 PM.
 
Old 12-04-2013, 04:48 AM   #21
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int main( void )
{
int i = 1234;
return i;
}

Do this in your home directory, so there are no permissions problems.
>> gcc simpler.c -o simpler.o
>> gcc simpler.o -o simpler
>> ./simpler
this was the thing i was shown when i ran "gcc simple.c -o simpler.o
Code:
slacker@slappisMekaniker:~/Documents$ gcc simple.c -o simpler.o
/usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.7.1/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find crt1.o: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.7.1/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find crti.o: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.7.1/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lc
/usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.7.1/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find crtn.o: No such file or directory
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
Slackware 14.0
Code:
slacker@slappisMekaniker:~/Documents$ gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 4.7.1
Copyright (C) 2012 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Quote:
Which gcc packages got installed
>> ls /var/log/packages/*gcc*

>> ls /var/log/packages/*include*
Code:
slacker@slappisMekaniker:~/Documents$ ls /var/log/packages/*gcc*
/var/log/packages/gcc-4.7.1-i486-1
/var/log/packages/gcc-g++-4.7.1-i486-1
/var/log/packages/gcc-gfortran-4.7.1-i486-1
/var/log/packages/gcc-gnat-4.7.1-i486-1
/var/log/packages/gcc-go-4.7.1-i486-1
/var/log/packages/gcc-java-4.7.1-i486-1
/var/log/packages/gcc-objc-4.7.1-i486-1
/var/log/packages/gccmakedep-1.0.2-noarch-2
slacker@slappisMekaniker:~/Documents$ ls /var/log/packages/*include*
/bin/ls: cannot access /var/log/packages/*include*: No such file or directory
slacker@slappisMekaniker:~/Documents$

These are the things i got while checking for gcc as per your given hint... So should i have to reinstall the gcc?
 
Old 12-04-2013, 04:56 AM   #22
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Quote:
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>> ls /var/log/packages/*gcc*
>> ls /var/log/packages/*libc*
for the command,
Code:
slacker@slappisMekaniker:~/Documents$ ls /var/log/packages/*libc*
/var/log/packages/glibc-i18n-2.15-i486-7
/var/log/packages/glibc-profile-2.15-i486-7
/var/log/packages/glibc-solibs-2.15-i486-8_slack14.0
/var/log/packages/glibc-zoneinfo-2012f_2012f-noarch-7
/var/log/packages/libcaca-0.99.beta18-i486-2
/var/log/packages/libcanberra-0.29-i486-1
/var/log/packages/libcap-2.22-i486-1
/var/log/packages/libcddb-1.3.2-i486-2
/var/log/packages/libcdio-0.83-i486-1
/var/log/packages/libcgroup-0.38-i486-1
/var/log/packages/libcroco-0.6.5-i486-1
slacker@slappisMekaniker:~/Documents$
Quote:
>> grep stdio /var/log/packages/* | grep libc
when i do run this command there is no execution!! Am i supposed how to use this one?? could you please explain me??
 
Old 12-04-2013, 01:14 PM   #23
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>> gcc simpler.c -o simpler.o
>> gcc simpler.o -o simpler
>> ./simpler

This will not work on Slackware 14 which is what slappisMekaniker said he installed. That first line compiles the program to a fully executable image and outputs it to a file named simpler.o. It does not just create an object file. Running that second line will produce tons of errors about having multiple definitions. The errors are correct as the source file has already been compiled to an object code format and the final linking has been done. To compile simpler.c to an object file, the command "gcc -c simpler.c" would be used.

I've used Slackware for many years and don't ever remember it failing to produce an executable when given that first line, as that line is written. Just to verify all that I've said, I just did it.

Coordially,
 
Old 12-04-2013, 01:36 PM   #24
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slappisMekaniker,
Sorry to see you are having so many difficulties. I've just finished downloading all of the Glorious Haskell Compliler material from Slackbuilds. Give me a few days to attempt to build it. Your original problem was caused by a line in the configure script that did this:
Code:
gcc -V
which your version of gcc doesnot support. That was the fatal error that prevented the build from continuing.

As to the other errors which seem to prevent you from compiling even a simple program, those may or may not be germane to the problem. You have indicated that you have built Slackbuilds packages before, so I will assume that at least at one time you had a working Slackware 14 environment.

In the meantime, if you will be so kind, please verify that you do indeed have a full, complete Slackware 14.0 installation. And yes, this means one where nothing in gcc or the libc has been mucked with. I'm sure we can get you through this, though it may take awhile.

Coordially,
 
Old 12-05-2013, 02:39 AM   #25
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Well Spect73, Thank you in advance for your help! It is good to have problems ofcourse to develop my abilities in finding out and solving them!! Any how I think you are doing a great work!
 
Old 12-05-2013, 01:13 PM   #26
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As Spec73 noticed I forgot the -c on the gcc command.
>> gcc -c simpler.c -o simpler.o

but as said a one step compile should also work:
>> gcc simpler.c -o simpler

The problem is that it failed, and the output shows that you do have a second problem, besides the include problem.

Do not get hung up on the -V in the configure run. As I said it looks to be a test for another compiler. The configure tries two other gcc commands after that line, one of which looks valid for your gcc compiler.
 
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As Spec73 noticed I forgot the -c on the gcc command.
>> gcc -c simpler.c -o simpler.o

but as said a one step compile should also work:
>> gcc simpler.c -o simpler

The problem is that it failed, and the output shows that you do have a second problem, besides the include problem.

Do not get hung up on the -V in the configure run. As I said it looks to be a test for another compiler. The configure tries two other gcc commands after that line, one of which looks valid for your gcc compiler.
Indeed Sir, you are correct. I just built the ghc package successfully, and I found the same error in my config.log. I've learned something new. Thanks.

The only other errors in slappisMekanikers' config.log were:
Code:
/usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.7.1/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find crt1.o: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.7.1/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find crti.o: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.7.1/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lc
/usr/lib/gcc/i486-slackware-linux/4.7.1/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: cannot find crtn.o: No such file or directory
The only time I've ever encountered these was when building a Linux From Scratch system and I'd dorked either the libc or gcc build. Further help would be appreciated, as I've reached the limits of my knowledge.

Coordially,
 
Old 12-05-2013, 02:47 PM   #28
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You are missing this package (your distribution may have 2.14 or 2.15).
These are the first lines of /var/log/packages/glibc-2.13-i486-5_slack13.37.
It contains the include files, and also contains the crt1, ctri, and crtn files that you are missing
to compile simpler.c.
It is a standard development package in Slackware, so it must not have been installed.

Code:
PACKAGE NAME:     glibc-2.13-i486-5_slack13.37
COMPRESSED PACKAGE SIZE:     11M
UNCOMPRESSED PACKAGE SIZE:     130M
PACKAGE LOCATION: ./glibc-2.13-i486-5_slack13.37.txz
PACKAGE DESCRIPTION:
glibc: glibc (GNU C libraries)
glibc:
glibc: This package contains the GNU C libraries and header files.  The GNU
glibc: C library was written originally by Roland McGrath, and is currently
glibc: maintained by Ulrich Drepper.  Some parts of the library were
glibc: contributed or worked on by other people.
glibc:
glibc: You'll need this package to compile programs.
glibc:
glibc:
glibc:
...
usr/include/
usr/include/bits/
usr/include/bits/printf-ldbl.h
usr/include/bits/semaphore.h
...
usr/lib/libc.a
usr/lib/libpthread.so
usr/lib/Scrt1.o
usr/lib/librpcsvc.a
usr/lib/libdl.a
usr/lib/libpthread_nonshared.a
usr/lib/libmcheck.a
usr/lib/libutil.a
usr/lib/libieee.a
usr/lib/gcrt1.o
usr/lib/libbsd-compat.a
usr/lib/libc.so
usr/lib/libg.a
**** GREP:
You must reconsider if you actually got a full install as grep is a basic command.
You may have mistyped it, but that should have got an error message.

grep, fgrep, egrep, zegrep, zgrep, zfgrep are installed by package grep-2.7-i486-1
zipgrep is installed by package infozip-6.0-i486-1
xzgrep is installed by package xz-5.0.2-i486-1
rgrep is installed by package jed-0.99_19-i486-1
bzgrep is installed by package bzip2-1.0.6-i486-1
msggrep is installed by package gettext-tools-0.18.1.1-i486-1

I would suggest checking, or just reinstalling these packages.

****
I do not have a full install but do have the following packages.
There are some strange ones in the list, but you should have most of them.
The Slackware discs have an accompanying txt file for each package to see what it is.
Many packages like fvwm, kernel, loudmouth, aalib, are completely optional.
And you don't need xf86 packages for hardware you do not have.

Code:
ConsoleKit-0.4.3-i486-1
M2Crypto-0.20.2-i486-1
MPlayer-20101218-i486-1
PyQt-4.8.1-i486-1
QScintilla-2.4.5-i486-2
a2ps-4.14-i486-5
aaa_base-13.37-i486-3
aaa_elflibs-13.37-i486-7
aaa_terminfo-5.8-i486-1
aalib-1.4rc5-i486-3
acl-2.2.50-i486-1
acpid-2.0.9-i486-1
akonadi-1.4.1-i486-3
alpine-2.00-i486-3
alsa-lib-1.0.24.1-i486-1
alsa-oss-1.0.17-i486-1
alsa-utils-1.0.24.2-i486-1
amarok-2.4.0-i486-1
amp-0.7.6-i386-1
anthy-9100h-i486-1
appres-1.0.3-i486-1
apr-1.4.5-i486-1_slack13.37
apr-util-1.4.1-i486-1_slack13.37
ash-0.4.0-i486-2
aspell-0.60.6-i486-1
aspell-en-6.0_0-noarch-4
at-3.1.12-i486-1
atk-1.32.0-i486-1
attica-0.1.4-i486-1
attr-2.4.45-i486-1
audacious-2.4.4-i486-1
audacious-plugins-2.4.4-i486-1
audiofile-0.2.7-i486-1
aumix-2.9.1-i486-1
autoconf-2.68-noarch-1
autofs-5.0.5-i486-1
automake-1.11.1-noarch-2
automoc4-0.9.88-i486-1
babl-0.1.2-i486-1
bash-4.1.010-i486-1
bc-1.06.95-i486-1
bdftopcf-1.0.3-i486-1
beforelight-1.0.4-i486-1
bigreqsproto-1.1.1-noarch-1
bin-11.1-i486-1
binutils-2.21.51.0.6-i486-1
bison-2.4.3-i486-2
bitmap-1.0.5-i486-1
blackbox-0.70.1-i486-4
boost-1.45.0-i486-1
bpe-2.01.00-i486-1
bsd-games-2.13-i486-11
bzip2-1.0.6-i486-1
ca-certificates-20111211-noarch-1_slack13.37
cairo-1.10.2-i486-2
ccache-3.1.4-i486-1
cdparanoia-III_10.2-i486-1
cdrdao-1.2.3-i486-1
cdrtools-3.01a02-i486-1
chmlib-0.40-i486-2
clucene-0.9.21b-i486-1
cmake-2.8.4-i486-1
compiz-0.8.8-i486-1
compositeproto-0.4.2-noarch-1
coreutils-8.15-i486-1_slack13.37
cpio-2.11-i486-1
cpufrequtils-008-i486-1
crda-1.1.1-i486-1
cups-1.4.6-i486-1
curl-7.21.4-i486-1
cvs-1.11.23-i486-1
cxxlibs-6.0.14-i486-1
cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-i486-1
damageproto-1.2.1-noarch-1
db42-4.2.52-i486-3
db44-4.4.20-i486-2
dbus-1.4.1-i486-1
dbus-glib-0.88-i486-1
dbus-python-0.83.1-i486-1
dc3dd-6.12.3-i486-1
dcron-4.4-i486-1
ddrescue-1.14-i486-1
dejavu-fonts-ttf-2.33-noarch-1
desktop-file-utils-0.16-i486-2
dev86-0.16.17-i486-1
devs-2.3.1-noarch-25
dhcp-4.2.1_P1-i486-1
dhcpcd-5.2.12-i486-1_slack13.37
dialog-1.1_20100428-i486-2
diffstat-1.53-i486-1
diffutils-3.0-i486-1
dirmngr-1.1.0-i486-1
djvulibre-3.5.24-i486-1
dmapi-2.2.10-i486-1
dmidecode-2.11-i486-1
dmxproto-2.3.1-noarch-1
dosfstools-3.0.11-i486-2
doxygen-1.7.3-i486-1
dri2proto-2.3-i486-1
e2fsprogs-1.41.14-i486-1
ebook-tools-0.1.1-i486-2
ed-1.4-i486-1
editres-1.0.5-i486-1
eigen2-2.0.10-i486-1
eject-2.1.5-i486-2
elm-2.5.8-i486-3
elvis-2.2_0-i486-2
enchant-1.5.0-i486-1
encodings-1.0.4-noarch-1
enscript-1.6.5.2-i486-1
epic5-1.1.2-i486-1
esound-0.2.41-i486-1
etc-13.013-i486-1
ethtool-2.6.36-i486-1
evieext-1.1.1-noarch-1
exiv2-0.21.1-i486-1
expat-2.0.1-i486-2
expect-5.44.1.15-i486-1
fetchmail-6.3.20-i486-1_slack13.37
fftw-3.2.2-i486-1
file-5.05-i486-1
findutils-4.4.2-i486-1
fixesproto-5.0-i486-1
flac-1.2.1-i486-3
flex-2.5.35-i486-1
floppy-5.4-i386-3
fluxbox-1.3.1-i486-1
font-adobe-100dpi-1.0.3-noarch-1
font-adobe-75dpi-1.0.3-noarch-1
font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.4-noarch-1
font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.4-noarch-1
font-adobe-utopia-type1-1.0.4-noarch-1
font-alias-1.0.3-noarch-1
font-arabic-misc-1.0.3-noarch-1
font-bh-100dpi-1.0.3-noarch-1
font-bh-75dpi-1.0.3-noarch-1
font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi-1.0.3-noarch-1
font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi-1.0.3-noarch-1
font-bh-ttf-1.0.3-noarch-1
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Old 12-05-2013, 03:02 PM   #29
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GREP

Verify that grep is working
>> grep --version

When grep does not find any matching files it just returns without printing anything.
No problem then, except that the files we were checking for are not there.
 
Old 12-05-2013, 09:08 PM   #30
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slappisMekaniker,
I've been going back through all the posts regarding this problem. And, I stumbled onto something kinda interesting. You have another thread titled "trying to install qemu-kvm but ended up with following error" where you aren't getting zlib. In your first post of this thread you write "Well, when i try to install ghc(the depency package for zlib)i came into clash". Now, the ghc package is for the
"Glorious Haskell Compiler". It isn't a dependency for zlib.

Additionally, reading all posts in both threads, I must say that you most likely don't have a full install of Slackware 14.0 at this point. One of the mistakes that I made was thinking that you had successfully built some SlackBuilds packages. But, you merely said that you had downloaded them. This is what I suggest:
1. Put the install DVD in and select a full install. That means place an 'X' by everything. You have
a 500G disk, so room is absolutely no problem. I have Slackware 14.0 on my system, and I to have a
500G disk. I install everything even though the bulk of it I will never use.
2. Once you have a freshly installed system, try compiling a simple 'C' language program. If you have
actually done a full install it will work.
3. Then spend some time just using Slackware. Get used to how it works. Then progress up to using
qemu or whatever else.

I understand that learning this can be frustrating but don't give up. However, you must be willing to do what the folks attempting to help you ask. In that qemu thread one of the posters said that a fresh install was probably needed. You replied 'no way'. Since that time, only more difficulties have arisen. Perhaps it is time to do that fresh install and start over.

Oh well, I now know I can build the "Glorious Haskell Compiler" if I decide to ever investigate it. And I've learned about a few personalities and programs. Time well spent I think.
 
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