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Old 12-31-2003, 10:17 AM   #1
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Buy genuine linux


Happy new year all. I am appalled to find ebay selling versions of Linux, for example RHEL 3.0 for $30.00USD. Every Linux box I have setup for a business I have encouraged the company to buy a genuine copy of the distro, my mentality; support the developers and and get a quality distro. One of the biggest installations of Linux, google.com even purchase genuine media from RHL. I don't work for RHL so this isn't a promo stunt. But I call on all Linux users to boycott these people, selling non genuine installation sets, for those of you who are broke or don't have broadband and need to buy installation disks, get a buddy here on linuxquestions.org to burn you a set for the cost of the media, keep your money in the community. Boycott ebay!
RHEL WS $179.00USD Bargain
SuSE 9.0 $79.00USD Bargain
Mandy 9.2 $79.00USD Bargain
Slackware $39.95
All for less than 50% of the cost of MS desktop you get the most robust workstation or server operating system for x86 available on the market today!!
 
Old 12-31-2003, 10:23 AM   #2
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I'm with you
 
Old 12-31-2003, 10:43 AM   #3
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Ebay used to be fun , but now every moron who's bought into a "make a $ 1,000,000.00 a month" infomercial floods the site with with useless garbage. They may as well be spammers, come to think of it they probably are. A boycott sounds like a nice idea, but in the end its more like tilting at windmills.
Why? Because P.T. Barnum was right, there really IS one born every minute.

Last edited by Lindy; 12-31-2003 at 10:46 AM.
 
Old 12-31-2003, 10:46 AM   #4
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I forgot to mention, this sale on ebay came to my attention when a customer asked me would it not be better buying the $30.00USD RHEL over the $179.00USD genuine, what a cheap skate!
 
Old 12-31-2003, 10:57 AM   #5
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"a customer asked me would it not be better buying the $30.00USD RHEL over the $179.00USD genuine"

If he's planning to use it for business/commercial use he'll see what his $ 30.00 gets him when he needs some support out of Redhat ;-)
 
Old 12-31-2003, 11:12 AM   #6
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Linux needs to loose it's "for free, no cost" tag. GNU's "free" tag has an entirely different meaning. I use RHL at home, I don't have a support contract with Red Hat because I feel manually updating the system keeps me in touch with package vulnerabilties, security issues, bugs etc, but I have bought genuine media kits from 6.1 to 8.0. You're right on the button, there is one born every minute, but I hope my thread gets through to someone out there!
 
Old 12-31-2003, 02:52 PM   #7
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" but I hope my thread gets through to someone out there!"

So do I. I too have plunked down cash for official genuine copies of various
distributions. I just wish that for someone looking for linux on the cheap would look to a place like cheapbytes.com as opposed to being ripped off by an ebay scam artist.

Last edited by Lindy; 12-31-2003 at 02:55 PM.
 
Old 12-31-2003, 03:19 PM   #8
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I somewhat disagree. I would like to learn and work with RHEL just to know it for future jobs and RHCE. I don't want to pay $179 for it.

I have purchased RH 7.1 and also RH9 from CompUSA. I have also purchased SuSE 8.2. Anything under $100 is good for me. I don't want to pay almost $200 just for an OS at home to learn and mess around with.

Same reason that I will have 2003 server installed at home because I manage it every day at work. I need to get more experience with it but I'm not going to pay for it (and my company certainly wont). They should do like Microsoft and offer 120 Day eval versions inside books so you CAN use it to just learn.

I would buy a $30 copy off of ebay because I don't need support from Redhat, and that is what you're paying for with the $179.

Redhat really messed up by making their "stable" version of redhat cost something. Their was/are a lot of people using RH 7.x and 8.x for full up production systems. Now they have to "pay to upgrade". Sounds like a Microsoft scheeme to me

Thanks for letting me know about the RHEL for $30.
Now I can go get a copy. Learn it. And be a huge value to a corporation who I will tell to buy RHEL. And since I will have experience with it I will be a better employee. I have to do this if I want to get Linux into my company more and more. Management will not just "go with Linux" without a bit of a push.



Whitehat

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Old 12-31-2003, 05:32 PM   #9
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I thought selling Red Hat Linux under the name "Red Hat Linux" was illegal. I know by the GPL it can be distributed but doesn't RH have IP interests in the name Red Hat?
 
Old 12-31-2003, 05:55 PM   #10
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If you want to study for the RHCE you won't need RHEL. Look at the exam outline on redhat.com most of the content applies to Red Hat Linux system and network administration, you could even get use RHL 8.0 to prepare for the exam. I know I've taken the exam. Anyway why bother your arse paying a penny to some clown on ebay when Red Hat make RHEL 2.95 ios available for download, they make the current enterprise packages available in source rpm binaries, if you were even close to RHCE you would know how to compile the packages for use on a standard RedHat release. RHEL is developed for enterprise, systems support for up to 16 processors and commercial clusters such as those offer by Sun, Fedora FC1 is the branch for developers and enthusiasts. If the truth was known the clown on ebay is probably copying the beta enterprise and selling you something you can download. I suggest that you read my posts again to get the picture of what I am talking about.
 
Old 12-31-2003, 06:09 PM   #11
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Quote:
Originally posted by mrhyde
If you want to study for the RHCE you won't need RHEL. Look at the exam outline on redhat.com most of the content applies to Red Hat Linux system and network administration, you could even get use RHL 8.0 to prepare for the exam. I know I've taken the exam. Anyway why bother your arse paying a penny to some clown on ebay when Red Hat make RHEL 2.95 ios available for download, they make the current enterprise packages available in source rpm binaries, if you were even close to RHCE you would know how to compile the packages for use on a standard RedHat release. RHEL is developed for enterprise, systems support for up to 16 processors and commercial clusters such as those offer by Sun, Fedora FC1 is the branch for developers and enthusiasts. If the truth was known the clown on ebay is probably copying the beta enterprise and selling you something you can download. I suggest that you read my posts again to get the picture of what I am talking about.
Dude I suggest you settle down.

Did you pass the RHCE or fail it? I don't think you should be preaching to me about what Enterprise Linux is. I work in an enterprise environment (60+ servers and 1200+ desktops). Do you? I have MCSE and Linux+ Certs. Do you? You don't think I've already looked at RHCE requirments? You don't think Redhat updates the test stuff to include new releases? They do. I think you better re-evaluate your post above. I suggest you not lash out and insult me by speaking how you did above.

Just because you have 15+ years of Unix experience and are a sys admin don't mean jack. You may know more than me but please refrain from talking down to someone because of it. People like you give bad names to Unix dudes. You're the dude that probably always says RTFM.

By the way, I know how to install via the Source RPM's and that I can download that stuff from any place like mirrors.kernel.org. TO me $35 is worth having the CD's so I don't have to do that.

[edit] Here is a nice link to install RHEL from source for you others out there that don't know that we're talking about:
http://leapster.org/linux/redhat/rhel/
[/edit]

This kind of talk will quickly get you on my ignore list and also quickly shows the lack of respect you have for others.

Later,
Whitehat

Last edited by Whitehat; 12-31-2003 at 06:19 PM.
 
Old 12-31-2003, 06:36 PM   #12
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Yes I passed it, and I am not making these remarks because of 15+ years UNIX and I'm not talking down to you, paranoid! Would you buy a pair of counterfeit Levis from ebay just to have the look? My original post was meant to encourage "newbies" not to buy counterfiet linux from someone who's probably out to make money. Anyway if Red Hat are the " Microsoft " company you suggest they are, why spend $500 to take their exam. The LPI is just as good. I feel like I'm 14 years old in a school yard, arguing with you about who's bike is the shinniest. Where do I say "I know more than you"?

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Old 12-31-2003, 07:00 PM   #13
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Like I stated in another post here

I don't have the time or will to argue

I'll leave it at that.

Happy New Year mrhyde!

Lets put our differences behind us and turn over a new leaf for 2004

Sorry Fellow Linux Brother.

Peace,
Whitehat
 
Old 12-31-2003, 07:10 PM   #14
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Happy new year to you too, like I said in an earlier post "get a buddy to burn the ISO images" for you. If you want post an email address I'll mail you info about the RHEL iso. If you don't have the connection to download I'll burn them for you and ship them to you for free!!
 
Old 12-31-2003, 07:19 PM   #15
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here's the beta link
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linu.../taroon/en/iso
 
  


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