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Old 01-18-2007, 10:06 AM   #31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sepero
Wrong, if K3B cannot be easily installed by your package manager, this is a problem with your distribution, not the program K3B.
I hear ya.

yum install k3b
yum install gnomebaker

type in "k3b" / "gnomebaker"

click & drag files. burn.

bam bing boom. done.



Windows:
1. fire up firefox.
2. yahoo for a free dvd burning app
3. fight mirrors that don't have the file anymore
4. download manually.. thank God firefox lets me run what I downloaded w/o hunting for it!
5. install
6. remove adware
7. argh. more popups.
8. oh crap, w/o popups the thing won't run.
9. shutdown
10. go back to linux.
 
Old 02-13-2007, 08:16 AM   #32
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OK, I promised to post a few instructions on getting k3b installed when I had time, so here goes:

The biggest headache was cdrecord. I did a Google search for it, found the package and installed it (download was very slow). IIRC, the problem I had once it [cdrecord] was installed was that I was having trouble pointing to the cdrecord executable from within the k3b programs tab. Once k3b is booted and you've installed cdrecrod, goto Settings | Configure k3b and choose the programs tab on the left hand side. I'm struggling to remember exactly what I did here, but the main problem I had was that I was pointing to the wrong directory. In the end I went to the cdrtools directory I'd installed to and did:

find -name cdrecord

This found the relevant executable in a rather long path which I hadn't thought of looking in. I did:

find -name cdrecord in the directory I'd done the cdrecord install in. This got the following result:

youristallpath/cdrecord/OBJ/intel-r--pentium-r--4-cpu-3.00ghz-linux-cc/cdrecord

I guess your install might differ.

To be fair, once I'd sussed this, the rest was relatively easy as I just went to the Mandriva package manager, searched for the programs it was asking for and they installed. I could go back to k3b and insert the relevant paths into the relevant tabs.

Hope this helps, it's a few weeks ago now, so my memories are a little hazy of some details.

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Old 02-14-2007, 07:36 PM   #33
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The biggest headache was cdrecord. I did a Google search for it, found the package and installed it (download was very slow).
This is/was your main problem. You're trying to install Linux software the Microsoft way (the hard way). Use your package manager instead; that's why it exists.
 
Old 02-14-2007, 08:54 PM   #34
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This is/was your main problem. You're trying to install Linux software the Microsoft way (the hard way). Use your package manager instead; that's why it exists.
Much as I dislike Microsoft, I think describing their installations the "hard way" is totally unfair (and actually wrong). Windows programs install with a few clicks of a button. Many Linux installations (such as k3b) are tortuous. This then goes back to comparing it with Nero's Linux installation which was a dream.

I'm not sure what you mean by the package manager (upmi?) - there were no RPMs on the k3b website for Mandriva and nothing in the Mandriva GUI package manager), but whichever one you mean, that wouldn't have helped because I would still have had to locate where cdrecord had been installed. There were no explicit instructions of how to do what I just described (which would have made my life a lot easier) and I was trying to prevent other people from struggling like I had.

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Old 02-15-2007, 12:17 AM   #35
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DiBosco, Your one of those people that can never see the forest through the trees. Why are you still arguing when several people have offered EASY suggestions that work . . YES they do!! you keep insisting a package manager wont work, but you dont even understand the concept. Relax, and try something new for a change. If Nero is what you want to use, thats fine, but don't disregard k3b or others just because you have had a problem (solvable I might add). I for one have NEVER had a prob with k3b, and sorry buddy, but a package manager like Synaptic blows away windows everytime.
 
Old 02-15-2007, 05:39 AM   #36
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Sleekmason, you're one of those people who doesn't read people's posts and also one of those people who doesn't understand that Linux related things come easier to some that others. When have I said package manager doesn't work? Never. And the idea that I have disregarded k3b is an utter joke. I have persevered and persevered with it and then been good enough to post a list of things for people to do so they don't have to go through all I did if they find themselves in the same position. How on earth is that disregarding k3b? Seriously?

I had a problem - I solved it, I know it's solvable, so go and read posts properly before telling people to relax. Seriously, people with your attitude is what puts off a lot of people from using Linux. Your attitude is condescending and unpleasant. What you should be saying is: "For future reference and for other people who might (and will) struggle in the same way, the package manager, called xyz, found here (hyperlinked) will enable you to install the program in the following way." And then describe it. If it's easier than how I got tangled up it will help other people.

If you are talking about RPMs as the package manager btw, the k3b site link on its download page takes you to the Mandriva home page, so it left me with no choice but to compile the program.

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Old 02-15-2007, 08:02 AM   #37
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Wow I guess I was wrong. Sorry to cause problems. i'll read better in the future.
 
Old 02-16-2007, 03:39 AM   #38
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DiBosco, in fact, you don't seem to even understand what a package manager is. Linux installs software through your package manager. The only partially equivalent piece of software in Microsoft is WindowsUpdate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Package_manager

The package manager for Mandrake is urpmi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urpmi

I think RPMDrake is the Graphical frontend for urpmi.
MandrivaControlCenter->Software Management-> Install
http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Rpmdrake
 
Old 02-16-2007, 05:53 AM   #39
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Yeah, I always go to RPM drake first as it's easiest to install programs with that (although you can still get dependency hell with it). So I guess I knew what a package manager is, just didn't know it was called that!

What I tend to find with that is there still often aren't installs for programs there though. When I was searching a couple of days ago for a different program, I actually found RPMs on web sites that weren't in that GUI package manager.
 
Old 02-17-2007, 09:33 AM   #40
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DiBosco, have you tried adding more sources to your sources.list? unfortunately mine is of no use to you as i run a debian based distro (deb files) where as yours is redhat based (rpm files). may be there is someone out there who is kind enough to share a good sources list with you for your system.
 
Old 02-17-2007, 11:19 AM   #41
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I had done that, yes, thanks. Hopefully that will help with future installations!
 
  


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