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Old 02-08-2008, 04:00 PM   #16
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I've used freebsd and openbsd in the past and they both do better jobs on the server side of things. On the desktop side, it's still behind linux.
hmmmm.

So I guess among Linux I am going to try gentoo.
I like the fact that tweaking kernel is part of actual installation.
Screen shots look good. Plus it has nidiswrapper.

Thanks though. Usually people only say good things about their fav. versions.
 
Old 02-08-2008, 04:16 PM   #17
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Why not try them out and see ? I have tried so many distros before choosing one. In fact, let's face it, most distros just suck, they really do. So, whatever you do, keep looking to find what you want.

There's a great diversity of BSDs and they all have a great level of innovation. Less packages and ports to it, but if you don't use all that many programs I doubt it'll affect you. I still think Linux is better (that's why I recommend Slackware, it has some BSD in it, just a hint of it, but it's there). If you have a fast processor you can try Gentoo, for me it usually takes about 2 days of continuous 100 % CPU usage to fully compile it. I know newer processors can do this in hours probably. I just don't think it's worth it, neither the path nor the result.
 
Old 02-08-2008, 04:33 PM   #18
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BSD::
I have installed freebsd few times, never used it for over a day or so. I liked they it was so small and fast to install.
I'd point out a few things if it will help with your decision. This is in reference to FreeBSD, specifically.
  • As of this writing there are 18,049 ports (applications ported to FreeBSD) available.
  • The ports system is source based, and with some knowledge and patience you will likely find it to be a fantastic way to install and manage software.
  • Binary packages are made available at every release. This means they're not as current as ports -- as time passes after a release that becomes more and more true. They're a viable option in some cases (I have a package-only laptop).
  • Installation is quick. It's not necessary to rebuild the base system after installation (as mentioned by someone on this thread) unless there are security fixes to apply immediately. In that case, you can also use the binary update tool freebsd-update.

Personally, I prefer FBSD for my desktop. I run both FBSD and CentOS servers.

It's not entirely clear what your needs are, so you'll need to weigh those against any recommendations (including mine) you've gotten on this thread.
 
Old 02-08-2008, 07:48 PM   #19
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Out of curiosity, have you tried to run FBSD using prebuilt binaries? I was under impression nobody, including developers, takes this option seriously?
I've used the binary only option several times (especially in the 5.x era when I was getting started with FreeBSD) and it worked perfectly fine for me. These days you even have freebsd-update which can be used to provide secutiry updates to your prebuilt packages (I've not tried this myself because I am updating using ports although I installed 6.3 KDE, Xorg etc using packages).
 
Old 02-08-2008, 10:42 PM   #20
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hmmmm.

So I guess among Linux I am going to try gentoo.
I like the fact that tweaking kernel is part of actual installation.
Screen shots look good. Plus it has nidiswrapper.

Thanks though. Usually people only say good things about their fav. versions.
If you're going the gentoo route, be prepare for a long, long installation.
Some people have the patience and others like me do not. Anyway, after installation, gentoo is optimized for your system and boots quickly.

 
Old 02-11-2008, 08:58 AM   #21
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Good Day,

I want to install a new flavour of linux on my machine.


BSD::
I have installed freebsd few times, never used it for over a day or so. I liked they it was so small and fast to install.

Gentoo::
I have only hears about. I read few notes about it I liked the way kernel is complied. Making system more efficient from beginning.

Which one should I go for??

Thanks.
Depends on whether or not you like traditional unix. BSD is much more like Unix than linux is.

For the record, BSD is not a linux. It's a completely different kernel. It's BSD It can run the same GNU software, but it's definitely a different animal altogether. It has a completely different design philosophy than linux.

Some reasons to use BSD:
1. more secure out of the box
2. lighter
3. excellent TCP/IP stack

It has a lot of features that make it more suitable for providing services in a war zone.

-Viz

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Old 02-11-2008, 09:47 AM   #22
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Depends on whether or not you like traditional unix. BSD is much more like Unix than linux is.

For the record, BSD is not a linux. It's a completely different kernel. It's BSD It can run the same GNU software, but it's definitely a different animal altogether. It has a completely different design philosophy than linux.

Some reasons to use BSD:
1. more secure out of the box
2. lighter
3. excellent TCP/IP stack

It has a lot of features that make it more suitable for providing services in a war zone.

-Viz
Viz Wrote::
2. lighter
3. excellent TCP/IP stack
Yeah I was kind of aware of those two.


I am going to try gentoo first.
I would love a system which has
1-lightest Xwindows(merely supporting web browser)
2-Solid gcc compiler.
3-Sockets are important too
4-Rexx support
5-Easy to insert modules.
6-Least generic lib(only ones needed by above described packages)
7-Off course wireless networking.
8-and I may try wine too.

Thank you every one for your input.
 
Old 02-12-2008, 09:18 AM   #23
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Well, "long long installation" - it depends. The first time I installed it I needed 2 days (never compiled a kernel before), but if your machine is fast (because of the packages that need to be compiled) and you already have experience with linux (kernel, filesystem types, etc...) you should be able to install it in 5 hours (last Saturday).
Here are the compiler flags you can use (Intel 64bit = amd64) and if by chance you get some weird errors installing the packages "sandbox" or "db", install them with
Code:
FEATURES="-sandbox" emerge db
. I tell you this because I experienced this problem last Saturday on an Intel Core 2 Duo and last month on an AMD X2 4200, both compiled for amd64 architecture. This will be fixed in future releases.
And doublecheck that in the "USE=" section of "make.conf" you specify the "sse2", "ssse3", "mmx", etc.. optimization flags, which are used by "mplayer" and other programs.
List of use flags (might not be up-to-date)
 
  


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