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Old 10-18-2006, 06:09 AM   #1
drumstick
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BootLoader Help (GRUB or LILO)


Hello,

I am using GRUB Boot Loader.
Actually, I cannot. Because on every restart, I get the error: "GRUB Hard Disk Error"

I am using Ubuntu as Linux. I have 3 partitions. Windows on hda1, Ubuntu on hda2, and Swap Partition on hda3.

Before, I had SuSE. I also had the same error with SuSE using GRUB. But LILO was working fine, I chose LILO on the installation of SuSE. However, LILO does not come with the Ubuntu Linux. I tried to install it manually, but I couldn't since I am a newbie. Is there anyway I can get the the executable version of LILO (I mean something like lilo.22.7.3.RPM, instead of lilo.22.7.3.TGZ) ?

I heard GRUB is better than LILO. It doesn't matter for me GRUB or LILO, as soon as they work fine.

Currently I don't have LILO installed, so I cannot paste /etc/lilo.conf here, but here is my /boot/grub/menu.lst file:

Code:
# menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
#            grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
#            grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
#            and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.

## default num
# Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
# the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
#
# You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
# is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
# WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not change this entry to 'saved' or your
# array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
default         0

## timeout sec
# Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
# (normally the first entry defined).
timeout         10

## hiddenmenu
# Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
#hiddenmenu

# Pretty colours
#color cyan/blue white/blue

## password ['--md5'] passwd
# If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
# control (menu entry editor and command-line)  and entries protected by the
# command 'lock'
# e.g. password topsecret
#      password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
# password topsecret

#
# examples
#
# title         Windows 95/98/NT/2000
# root          (hd0,0)
# makeactive
# chainloader   +1
#
# title         Linux
# root          (hd0,1)
# kernel        /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
#

#
# Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST

### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
##      kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
##      kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=/dev/hda2 ro

## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=(hd0,1)

## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
##      alternative=false
# alternative=true

## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
##      lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=quiet splash

## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
##      altoptions=(recovery mode) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single

## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
##      howmany=7
# howmany=all

## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
##      memtest86=false
# memtest86=true

## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
## can be true or false
# updatedefaultentry=false

## ## End Default Options ##

title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-23-386
root            (hd0,1)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro quiet splash
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386
savedefault
boot

title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-23-386 (recovery mode)
root            (hd0,1)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro single
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386
boot

title           Ubuntu, memtest86+
root            (hd0,1)
kernel          /boot/memtest86+.bin
boot

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
# ones.
title           Other operating systems:
root


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
# on /dev/hda1
title           Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
root            (hd0,0)
savedefault
makeactive
chainloader     +1
 
Old 10-18-2006, 10:17 AM   #2
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well so far so good
hd0,0 is hda1 is MS
hd0,1 is hda2 is Linux

so ignoring waffle your linux can be simplied to this

title give me linux
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/hda2
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-23-386

2) you do not say if you can get a grub prompt after the error message?

if so redo from that prompt....grub to find its booting files

grub> root (hd0,1)
grub > setup (hd0)


hit the reset power to reboot....no changes made to your menu.

use the troubleshooter if the vmlinuz file is false etc.


3) however, have you run any partition magic/tool to resize your partitions?

do you use LVM/

raid ?

as these could have resulted in a corrupt partition table that led grub to spit out the error.
 
Old 10-18-2006, 12:45 PM   #3
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2) I can't get a GRUB prompt after the error: "GRUB Hard Disk Error"
The only way I can get the GRUB Boot Menu is by inserting the Ubuntu Install Disk, and then select "Boot From HardDisk"

3) I didn't use any partition tool. Just the builtin partitioner. My Harddisk is S.M.A.R.T.

By the way, the machine I use is a laptop.
 
Old 10-19-2006, 09:33 AM   #4
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heck its not one of those smart compaq or other laptops with a reserved partition that when it sees something it does not know (eg linux) it crashes the system?

2) I have a smart bios....that reports info that can be accessed at bios menu or thru lmsensors....is that what you mean?
 
  


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