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Old 10-12-2004, 03:57 AM   #31
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See? You can actually do this with NO written documentation!!
You must be kidding. You just supplied the documentation. Without the documentation that you just supplied, it is confusing. I had to wait for you to supply the documentation before I could conceive of doing it. There is no way I could have figured out what you just told me, on my own, without spending countless hours over a period of days, doing trial an error stuff, and most likely I would have never figured it out, if you hadn't supplied the documentation. You must be kidding.

I probably never would have figured out that I had to download all 3 of the iso links.

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Old 10-12-2004, 04:20 AM   #32
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I hate "graphical" interfaces. I want to have things labelled with written words that I can sound out, not pictographs that I can't recognize. Thus, I found http://osdir.com/shots/slideshows/sl...se=85&slide=34 to be rather troubling.

Whoa, this looks just like Windows. If I wanted something that looked just like windows, why wouldn't I just use Windows, (which is what I already have)????

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Old 10-12-2004, 05:10 AM   #33
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I... partially agree. The FreeBSD instructions were very clear.
Mandrake is an excellent first system for Windows refugees. What you see in that installation is only the surface of the system, which is the Window Manager, KDE. The WMs control the layout, menus and basic handling of the ui side. If you look at FluxBox - which I'll say since you do not seem to have read my signature - I believe the impression will be another.
If you are more of a command-line lover - which you like to say - you could try VectorLinux. It is lighter, faster, very command-line oriented. It comes with nice tools, though.
If you are going to hit the command line, though, a bit of preparation is in order. You may benefit from visiting the Linux Newbie Administrator Guide or LinuxCommand.
Otherwise, you can just install FreeBSD! If it looks great, maybe it is. We are not going to hate you for it - Linux is all about choice, and I'm rather sure the BSD boys will agree.
I must admit, though, that , to me, your attitude is a little spoiled about this. We have all done trial-and-error, here, Googled for many answers to many questions. You should not nag about getting insufficient advice, when it is offered freely.
 
Old 10-12-2004, 05:56 AM   #34
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OSourceDiplomat, thank you for the link to the Linux newbie Admin guide and LinuxCommand.org

googling for the answer to a question is a very different thing than finding the answer by trial and error. Saying that you offer answers to questions, and then when someone asks a question, responding that perhaps they should try and find the answer by trial and error, is an insult.

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Old 10-12-2004, 08:02 AM   #35
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Nomenclator, we're here trying to help you and you throw back offensive comments... 0SourceDiplomat didn't insult you by saying you can Google for answers to your questions. We're here out of the goodness of our hearts to help you and you seem to think that it's your right to complain about answers we give - I, for one, am writing my last reply to you.

Not meant as an insult, but it's just not worth it,
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Old 10-12-2004, 10:18 AM   #36
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BaltikaTroika writes "0SourceDiplomat didn't insult you by saying you can Google for answers to your questions."

as if I said that he did. I said no such thing. I said "Saying that you offer answers to questions, and then when someone asks a question, responding that perhaps they should try and find the answer by trial and error, is an insult." Furthermore, I preceded that by saying that "googling for the answer to a question is a very different thing than finding the answer by trial and error."

Perhaps it is because I didn't provide a graphic representation of each that you got confused between googling and trial-and-error?

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Old 10-12-2004, 04:32 PM   #37
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I'm with BaltikaTroika your need to calm down and realize we are not out to give you half answers or offend you. That is why I stopped trying to help.
 
Old 10-13-2004, 09:34 PM   #38
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OSourceDiplomat writes
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if you are going to hit the command line, though, a bit of preparation is in order. You may benefit from visiting the Linux Newbie Administrator GuideW or LinuxCommandW.
I am already fairly familiar with the unix shell, including setting file permissions with chmod, and writing scripts, and of key importance -- looking up command syntax in the manual.

by the way, seems like most of the links in the Administrator Guide and LinuxCommand, don't work.

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Old 10-15-2004, 06:58 AM   #39
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Never came across link issues there, but I trust you will notify the webmaster of the site if there are dead links.
 
Old 10-15-2004, 07:04 PM   #40
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OSD writes: "Never came across link issues there,"

Just go to http://linux-newbie.sunsite.dk/html/lnag.html and then click on any of the links in the Table of Contents. They all take you back to the same place on the same page, or back to the top of the page.

These are not "dead" links, to another domain, which happen from time to time and, given how fast the internet changes, are something we have to all learn to tolerate, and are excusable. Rather, they are loop-links. They take you back to the same place that you came from. They are the result of improper coding of the page or improper interpretation of the page by the browser. An English colloquialism for this kind of thing is "they take you on a wild goose chase."

I'm using Windows XP pro. The links do not work in a sensible fashion in either MSIE or Opera. Given that they do not work in Opera, and given Opera's reputation for following World Wide Web Consortium html standards faithfully, in all of Opera's versions for all the different operating systems, I tend to think that the links are coded improperly.

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