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Hi all. I appreciate your help and I'm sorry if this is a duplicate, I've searched everywhere and can't find an answer that I can understand. I am total newbie and just following instructions as best I can.
I am attempting to install ubuntu 8.04 on a very old system, to use as a word processor. The specs are:
I had DSL successfully installed but couldn't make it work properly (not user-friendly enough for me.) So I downloaded Ubuntu in the hopes that I could figure it out. I don't understand code, I'm totally new to this whole thing.
I have successfully installed the base system and software.
Now when I try to install either GRUB or LILO it fails.
I told it to install LILO to the MBR (/dev/sda) and tried installing it into the Ubuntu partition too (/dev/sda6). The error message I get for LILO is:
The LILO package failed to install into /target/.
When I tell it to continue anyway, it says:
Running "/sbin/lilo" failed with error code "1".
Trying to install GRUB gives me the same message:
The "grub" package failed to install into /target/.
I know I could select "continue without the boot loader" but I wouldn't have the slightest idea how to manually install one later.
Don't lose heart! Think of how good it will feel when you have installed everything!
OK, IDE means Integrated Drive Electronics.
SATA means Serial Advanced Technology Attachment.
Basically, IDE is nineties tech, and SATA is new tech. Don't worry about the difference. What is important is that ubuntu 'pretends' everything is SATA, but when GRUB or LILO comes along, it pretends nothing, it looks at the hardware, and tells you that the 'target', that is, SDA, does not physically exist.
I suggest you try an old flavour of slackware, 10 or 10.2 are good distros. They are a little more difficult to install than ubuntu, but they will work!
Keep asking the questions, loads of people around here to help!
The part about "hda" or "sda" is inconsequential as some newer distros now label everything (IDE or SATA) sda, sdb, etc. If you're installing Ubuntu to sda6, what else do you have on the computer. Are you able to use the CD to get to a command line to post results of "sudo fdisk -l"?
Thank you for the help! Most of the time when people answer questions I don't understand the answer or don't know how to execute it.
No problem, that is what we are here for. Also alot of people have their msn/aol/yahoo accounts shown so you may be able to talk to someone directly, however if you talk to someone directly then there wont be information on a great forum like LQ
Yancek just hit on something there I think. The boot partition of your OS needs to be mounted in a primary partition, that is, one of the first five partitions. You must have something else running on the PC?
SDA6 is an 'extended partition'. I know that sounds like gibberish, but don't worry for the moment about that. I reckon you have nothing else on there, but are trying to install using an extended partition for some reason.
If and ONLY IF, you have nothing else on your computer, try a full disk install, that is, use the complete hard drive, and allow ubuntu to use automatic partitioning when it gets that far. I bet GRUB or Lilo will install then! By the way, GRUB is the standard at this stage, why are you trying to use LILO?
I had a problem similar to this with my dell laptop now that I think of it. With my dell laptop if I ran my laptop without dma support (which was how it was by default) the hard drive would be hda, but with some kernel modification (NOT saying you need to do this, just part of the story) I could get it to use DMA with my hardware. The only thing is is the modifications I made to the kernel 1. obviously required a reboot to start the new kernel and 2. Changed all hda's to sda's. If you edit lilo to account for the sda's while the system is still in the previous kernel where it thinks the devices are hda lilo will error out and tell you you don't have and sda device.
In your case it is slightly different, however do you have a live linux distro? Live linux distro's are linux distributions that can be run completely off of CD without ANY modifications to the hard drive. I used PHLAK, however as of I think 2 years ago that distro has been discontinued, but your laptop is old, so support should be good. There are many other live distro's out there. Download one, burn it to CD, edit your lilo.conf/grub.conf while booted into the live distro, and run lilo/grub to apply the changed settings.
I am not entirely sure this will help you, but that is what helped me when I was in a "similar" predicament.