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Old 08-17-2004, 05:11 PM   #1
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Question Blackbox menu editing and customizing


I am new to linux and trying to learn as I go.

I have tried out KDE, Gnome, and Xfce4. Of the three I like Xfce4 the most. What I really want though is the ability to set up a desktop environment 100% based on what I do at my desktop.

I have started working with blackbox which I like a lot, but I need some help with customizing it a bit.

For starters I need some help figuring out how to add the 5-6 primary apps I use into the right click menu system, and eliminating some of the things I do not use.

Basically I use:

Mozilla
Evolution
Gaim
Gimp
OOo
XMMS
and a terminal.

Could anyone point me in the right direction (remembering that I am new to editing config files and the command line?)

Thanks in advance to any who help.

Jim
 
Old 08-17-2004, 05:38 PM   #2
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I don't use blackbox myself, but in fluxbox (which is based on blackbox) the menu is a simple text file located in ~/.fluxbox/menu

It's pretty self-explanatory once you open it.

hope that helps
 
Old 08-17-2004, 05:42 PM   #3
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Your file is most likely ~/.blackbox/menu. If you're using the systemwide menu, do "locate blackbox | grep menu" to find it and copy it to your $HOME/.blackbox directory.

Editing is pretty simple....the main things to remember are submenus and commands, and submenus need to be closed with "[end]".
a simple example is:
[exec] (Mozilla) {mozilla}

or:
[submenu] (internet) {}
[exec] (Mozilla) {mozilla}
[end]

[exec] tells Blackbox that this item is a command
(Mozilla) is what will be displayed in the menu
{mozilla} is the command used to launch the program
 
Old 08-17-2004, 06:43 PM   #4
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if you want to change your menu for all users, the file you want will probably be :

/usr/share/blackbox/menu

for editing see mikshaw's explanation above.

I used to use blackbox, im a big fan of fat free windowmanagers. But now im a true fluxbox convert, you should try it out.
Also you could try some of the configuration tools available for blackbox/fluxbox. try opening a terminal and typing:

bbconf

enjoy

ps. before you ask how to set a wallpaper, this seems to get everyone at first (took me ages to figure out) open a terminal again and type

man bsetbg
 
Old 08-17-2004, 10:14 PM   #5
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I am off and running! Thanks to all.

My new menu is below but first, I have a few other questions:

For some reason I cannot get bbconf to run

[jdier@linuxbox jdier]$ bbconf
-bash: bbconf: command not found
[jdier@linuxbox jdier]$

As root:

[root@linuxbox jdier]# bbconf
bash: bbconf: command not found
[root@linuxbox jdier]#

------------------------------

Curious if anyone could point me in the direction of some easy way to switch between open applications.... I do not like a bar with applications on it, looking for something more like the middle click of Xfce4. I would like to replace the blackbox middle click with that.

_______________________

Finally, anyway to change the system font? First of all, it is very difficult to read (so small) and secondly it is not too pleasing to the eye.


--------
menu
--------
Here is where I am so far:

[begin] (Blackbox)
[exec] (Mozilla Navigator) {mozilla}
[exec] (Evolution email) {evolution}
[exec] (Instant Messenging) {gaim}
[exec] (Music) {xmms}
[exec] (xterm) {xterm -ls}
[exec] (Gnome Term) {gnome-terminal}
[exec] (KDE Term) {konsole}

[submenu] (Office Apps)
[exec] (OOo Writer) {oowriter}
[exec] (OOo Spreadsheet) {oocalc}
[exec] (OOo Presentation) {ooimpress}
[end]

[submenu] (Graphics)
[exec] (The GIMP) {gimp}
[exec] (Tux Paint) {tuxpaint}
[end]

[submenu] (System Tools)
[exec] (Sound Card) {system-config-soundcard}
[exec] (Tux Paint) {tuxpaint}
[end]

[submenu] (X Utilities)
[exec] (Xfontsel) {xfontsel}
[exec] (Xman) {xman}
[exec] (Xcalc) {xcalc}
[exec] (Xload) {xload}
[end]

[submenu] (Styles) {Choose a style...}
[stylesdir] (/usr/share/blackbox/styles)
[end]

[workspaces] (Workspace List)
[config] (Configuration)

[reconfig] (Reconfigure)
[restart] (Restart)

[exit] (Exit)
[end]
-----------------------------


Thanks again for all the help.

Jim
 
Old 08-18-2004, 07:59 AM   #6
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for switching apps, you can also use the middle mouse button (or click the wheel) to bring up the window list. But i would seriously recomend trying fluxbox, it has the option to "tab" windows. ie: say you have a terminal a browser and your mail program open, by dragging one window with the middle button onto another, it will group all windows together with a set of tabs at the top making it a breeze to switch apps.
As for the font size/face, you can adjust this in the style file :

/usr/share/blackbox/styles

have a look trhough the style your using and try to spot all the font entries
As i said if you like the concept of blackbox, try fluxbox, it's very similar except it has newer code and a bit more functionality.

cheers.
 
Old 08-18-2004, 11:12 AM   #7
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I'm going to guess that using Alt+Tab will switch between windows, but I haven't used Blackbox in ages.
 
Old 08-18-2004, 11:22 AM   #8
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Also to select a font use xfontsel or some dist. it is fontsel,you can paste it with the middle button.
 
Old 08-18-2004, 12:19 PM   #9
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Just tried Alt+Tab in Blackbox. doesnt work im afraid.
 
Old 08-18-2004, 01:46 PM   #10
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I am so new that installing stuff is still hours of messing around for me.

I was able to get this far in blackbox because I was able to YUM it all in one command. I cannot get fluxbox installed with YUM.

Could anyone point me in the direction of somewhere I could get some help installing and configuring fluxbox

Remember, I am still really new to all the command line stuff (but trying my darndest to learn!!!)

Thanks for everything so far.

Jim
 
Old 08-18-2004, 03:00 PM   #11
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keyboard shortcuts?

Actually, if you only use these few programs, you may want to set up keyboard shortcuts instead. Here are the contents of my ~/.fluxbox/keys file:
Code:
Mod1 Tab :NextWindow
Mod1 Shift Tab :PrevWindow
Mod1 F1 :ExecCommand /usr/X11R6/bin/rxvt
Mod1 F2 :ExecCommand /usr/X11R6/bin/fbrun
Mod1 F3 :ExecCommand firefox
Mod1 F4 :ExecCommand evolution
Mod1 F5 :ExecCommand gaim
Mod1 F6 :ExecCommand gftp
Mod1 F7 :ExecCommand juk
Mod1 F8 :ExecCommand k3b
Mod1 F9 :ExecCommand oowriter
Mod1 F10 :ExecCommand screem
Mod1 F11 :ExecCommand kaffeine
Mod1 F12 :ExecCommand konqueror --profile filemanagement
- as the Mod1 key is the Alt key, this setup changes program windows with Alt+Tab, and the programs are set up as shortcuts ranging from Alt+F1 to Alt+F12. More about setting up the keyboard shortcuts here.

Last edited by mjjzf; 08-18-2004 at 03:55 PM.
 
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Old 08-18-2004, 03:02 PM   #12
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Just got the rpm for flux box and have it up and running.

This is nice.

If anyone has any tips or tricks pages for getting things like a pager working, it would be appreciated.

Also any info on setting desktop image and getting the slit working...

Thanks,

Jim
 
Old 08-18-2004, 03:11 PM   #13
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for a background image, type this into a terminal :

fsetbg -f /path/to/your/image.jpg

there are a few additional packages that you can download from

http://www.fluxbox.org

i believe there is a pager applet there. Also a lot of info on configuring and using fluxbox.
alternatively you can use the blackbox pager as you probably have it already. open a terminal and type :

bbpager -w

the "-w" option means withdrawn and will place it in the slit for you. The slit is only visible when there is something in it.

enjoy.
 
Old 08-18-2004, 03:16 PM   #14
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@ jdier - As for setting the background, I edited the file ~/.fluxbox/init
I inserted the line
Code:
session.screen0.rootCommand: fbsetbg -f ~/Documents/billeder/os-tux.jpg
(I should add that billeder means pictures in Danish)
I messed around with the startup file, but could never make it work. I got this tip, and it works. My faithful os-tux.jpg is my encouraging background now.
Not quite sure what you mean by pager - that can mean a lot of things, working with WMs...

Last edited by mjjzf; 08-18-2004 at 03:18 PM.
 
Old 01-28-2006, 04:06 PM   #15
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Thank you for this discussion. It got me started on customizing my Fluxbox menu with an editor. (I had already discovered the fluxbox generate menu script.
 
  


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