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Old 12-21-2001, 01:07 AM   #1
dawhoo
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Blackbox and GUI


I installed Redhat 7.2 via FTP on a p133 with 32MB RAM. Sadly, I can't use KDE or Gnome as desktops, but I was told I could use Blackbox. My problem is I can't get ./cofigure to work. configure:error:no acceptable cc found in $PATH

I have only had Linux 2 days, so I have no idea what this means. Currently, I am using WindowMaker desktop. Could that be part of the problem? Is there something I could do different? I downloaded the tar.gx from different sites, so I don't think it is a corrupt file, but I could be wrong.

Also, I am used to GUI and I would really like a GUI RPM. I can't use the KDE or Gnome versions. Is there a RPM GUI which will work with TWM, Blackbox or WindowMaker? I don't need anything fancy and in fact, the simpler the better. Something like Midnight Commander file managers GUI, but without yellow text on pink menus.

While I am at it, is there a way to change the colors in Midnight Commander?

I appreciate any suggestions, dawhoo.
 
Old 12-21-2001, 01:49 AM   #2
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that error is indicating that gcc compiler is not in your path.. you need to set it in your path or its not installed even.
i do know of a desktop that is small and fast and great for slower computers.. its xfce, at www.xfce.org
and they do have a rpm format for redhat. easy install.
just download and run this command:

rpm -i /path-of-xfce-you-downloaded.rpm
 
Old 12-21-2001, 07:34 AM   #3
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Thank you. I can't believe it was that simple. It was very easy to install and my machine is running much faster. Again, thank you. You saved me an enormous headache.

...dauf
 
Old 12-21-2001, 02:39 PM   #4
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how could you??? blackbox kicks ass! and xfce comes only second to twm in my worst window managers list!

dawhoo... PLEASE get the blackbox rpm too, and give it a spin. it'll be on pmfind.net, and will install just as easily. i promise! if you prefer xfce with it's gtk mutilations fair enough. ahh go on.. for me??
 
Old 12-21-2001, 05:35 PM   #5
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I found a source for blackbox RPM. Does the fact that it has ".src" have anything to do with why I can't get it to work?

It appears to load like any of the other 2 RPMs I have used: plug in address, computer waits and then I have blinking cursor. But After I type "blackbox" I recieve "blackbox: command not found". Any suggestion? I don't even know where to begin to look.

...dauf
 
Old 12-21-2001, 05:47 PM   #6
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with .src rpms you need to do :rpm --rebuild packagename.src.rpm to generate a binary rpm. then the normal rpm commands will work on it.
 
Old 12-21-2001, 05:54 PM   #7
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yeha, the src tag means that it's source code, not a compiled thing. i'd recommend you uninstalled that and forgot about it, instead take this one:

ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/PLD/current/...1.1-6.i386.rpm

there's no reason that won't work fine. I won't be offended if you give up, but there's no reason ata ll for it to be anymore difficult to get going than xfce. if you get it going then i'd also recommend installing 'blackbox keys' or bbkeys which will add hotkeys to it.

don't feel pressured to do it just cos i say so tho!
 
Old 12-21-2001, 06:13 PM   #8
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You guys are quick! And I will not give up. You will laugh, but I have already reinstalled redhat 3 times via FTP. I don't give up very easily.

Dumb question, but how should I uninstall the blackbox RPM?
I am assuming rpm -e filemane.rpm

..dauf

Last edited by dawhoo; 12-21-2001 at 06:32 PM.
 
Old 12-21-2001, 06:50 PM   #9
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Ouch. Well, the RPM appeared to install correctly, but now 2 new errors

If I type "blackbox"
"BaseDisplay::BaseDisplay: connection to X server failed."

If I type "exec blackbox"
Red Hat Linux release 7.2 (Enigma)
Kernel 2.4.7-10 on an i586
HOST login:

the redundancy of the first error makes me think I did not correctly uninstall the src.rpm

After the exec blackbox, I try startx (just in case) but it won't start any X server. Could the i386 part be part of the problem?


I will work on this untill I fix it or the HD just burns itself up.

I appreciate all the help, it is really nice to see people willing to help another.

...dauf
 
Old 12-22-2001, 04:35 AM   #10
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erm, well the src rpm is pretty irrelevant. if it's still installed, it *SHOULD* be in /usr/src/RPM/blackbox or something, you could try compiliing that...

ok the i386 tag defines the minimum spec kinda, as far as you're concerned. it means it was compiled ON a machine compatible with intel 386 and up. so a 586 is fine. ALL redhat rpm's are i386. well, no they're not, some are i686... either way that's fine. actually that rpm is actualyl from PLD linux, not redhat, so that' might be the probalem, but i looked at the file tre and it seemed good enough.

feel free to give up, but if you search for bb on rpmfind.net then the .....mdk.i586.rpm version SHOULD also work... and as it's compiled for i586 it'll be faster in theory...
 
Old 12-22-2001, 06:29 AM   #11
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I have not given up, but I am not trying again this weekend. I do so appreciate all the information and I will get blackbox to work one way or another. If anything changes, I'll post the results. Thanks for taking the time.

...dauf
 
Old 12-22-2001, 02:53 PM   #12
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I reinstalled Redhat and all its componets and now Blackbox works and it works better than I had expected. I am truely amazed how fast this old computer runs under Linux. I have been so pleased, now all my computers are at least dual booting with Linux.

Thank you to everyone, I truely appreciate all the help.

...dauf
 
Old 12-22-2001, 03:02 PM   #13
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i'll set up a paypal account if you REALLY want to show your gratitude!

so.. any verdict over the two? like i said, i'd recommend getting the bbkeys rpm to add hotkeys to black box
 
Old 12-22-2001, 04:41 PM   #14
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I think I added every tool the Blackbox website had. I really like the interface. It even runs well on my 486. Persoanlly, I like Blackbox better than xfce.

I have a 8088 4.3MHZ with with a 360K HDD and a 1.2MB 8 inch floppy I could sell you at a bargain price...lol

Thanks for the help.

...dauf
 
Old 12-22-2001, 05:18 PM   #15
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I think I added every tool the Blackbox website had. I really like the interface. It even runs well on my 486. Persoanlly, I like Blackbox better than xfce.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

IN YOUR FACE, TEXAN!

 
  


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