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Distribution: Mandriva mostly, vector 5.1, tried many.Suse gone from HD because bad Novell/Zinblows agreement
you must be too tired now to google for
linux iso torrent
there is a few people raving about pclinuxOS, well everytime I tried it,
it would not detect my video card, but mandy does. No distro is perfect.
Try a few and make your choice
Johnny, coffee?? i think you're on stronger stuff than that!! (did make me chuckle though).
http://www.pclinuxos.com/page.php?7 - according to that it's free, most other distros are btw, the money comes from support generally, and where is the fun in phoning someone up and having them fix it for you? :P
Not P2P links, but then i always find HTTP faster anyway (unless thee are oodles of Bittorrent seeds). Also the danger in P2P comes more from sharing your copyright stuff than it does downloading, so if you were to download it off of P2P you're more at risk from those getting your stuff .
For a newbie I think you could do a lot worse than Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper.
1) It's simple to install and use
2) It is a large distro so has plenty of community support
3) download and install easyubuntu from http://www.easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ after that it's a matter of point and click to add multimedia codecs, dvd playback, nvidia drivers and flash plugins.
You need to use the x86 ISOs for a 32-bit AMD processor and no, the AMD 64 version won't work. You can however install a 32-bit distro on a 64-bit machine. PowerPC chips used to be used in Macs. Info about them here.
I downloaded the Ubuntu torrent named "ubuntu-5.10-install-i386" via P2P, and burned the .ISO to a 4X Sony CD-RW using Nero and my BenQ1640. (The Sonys are the most reliable rewritable media I have found so far.)
On boot, the machine found the CD and began the installation, but choked at the files suffixed ".deb" (Sorry, I forgot to write down exactly where the install failed.)
You need to use the x86 ISOs for a 32-bit AMD processor and no, the AMD 64 version won't work.
I downloaded Ubuntu 6.06 for AMD 64 before I read this post, so I am currently d/l-ing the the x86 version. I don't know why the 5.10 version choked. I am thinking it might be the BenQ1640 or the Sony media. There was a CD-verification tool in the Ubuntu set-up that passed the BenQ, but nothing else would work. It doesn't matter, because I am going to try for the 6.06 installation and see what happens.
So thanks for the lesson in 64 vs. 32 bit Distros. The word "Intel" in the torrent description is a bit misleading....
A question still pending:
Also, there are sub-catagories listed. "Desktop", "Server" and "Alternate". I assume the Desktop and Server versions are self-explanatory, but what is an "Alternate" distro ?
Thanks again for the help, I'll post back as the situation develops.
Last edited by Johnny Faster; 06-10-2006 at 05:04 PM.
This is all I've been able to find on the "alternate" install CD:
The alternate install CD allows you to perform certain specialist installations of Ubuntu. It provides for the following situations:
* creating pre-configured OEM systems;
* setting up automated deployments;
* upgrading from older installations without network access;
* LVM and/or RAID partitioning;
* installing GRUB to a location other than the Master Boot Record;
* installs on systems with less than about 192MB of RAM.
I installed Ubuntu 6.06 in a partition on my XP machine a week or so ago and haven't really been back to XP since.
There are only one or two things I've yet to find to make the transformation complete, but until I do, I'll keep the XP there 'just in case"
One note about the Ubuntu .ISOs - I downloaded two: the desktop and the alternate install.
I used the desktop disk as a Live CD (as well as several others) and, having decided on Ubuntu, I used the alternate disk to install because I read a thread over at the Ubuntu forum where a bunch of people had their XP NTFS boot partition trashed by using the graphic install option on the desktop image (it's a documented bug!)
The alternate install disk doesn't provide Live CD capabilities, but it provides a text based installation which I used to install the OS quickly and without problems.
My NTFS boot partition is still intact
Having read the NTFS-trashed horror stories, I prepared a partition beforehand using PartitionMagic under Windows.
I'm glad I took the time to read before clicking the install button.
I, for one, am glad I installed Ubuntu Dapper and I can't see any reason to go back - I just need a version of aMSN which supports webcams and an easier to use GIMP and I'll forget my XP.
Well Ubuntu 6.06 downloaded at about 165/kps on my DSL connection so I got it today and burned it to CD-RW.
It seemed to get much further into the install process than the 5.10 version, and the GUI was nice, BUT ...
There was no help for the partitioning process. It asked what I wanted and I did my best at guessing. I think I got to stage 5 or so before things went south.
It listed both my 40 Gbyte IDE HD and my 250 Gbye SATA, and what I TRIED to do was dedicate 40 Gbytes of the SATA to Ubuntu, but when I sleected what I thought I needed to, it wouldn't go. I COULD have done a bunch of trial-and-error selections, but I got nervous and bailed on the install.
Good thing, because when I went to boot to my normal WinXP (from the SATA HD) DiskCheck made a scan, which made me nervous. Fortunately, the only harm that seems to have come from my "near-miss" with Ubuntu disaster is that WinXP has (apparantly) "found" new hardware (?!) and my system clock has changed by about 5 hours. Considering this,:
... I used the alternate disk to install because I read a thread over at the Ubuntu forum where a bunch of people had their XP NTFS boot partition trashed by using the graphic install option on the desktop image (it's a documented bug!) ...
I consider myself quite lucky.
Whew! Dodged a bullet there, for sure.
The "new hardware" seems to be a yellow-flagged parallel port driver (which I never had before) and which I uninstalled.
It seems this whole Ubuntu/Linux thing is pretty dodgy, and I am reconsidering my current course and looking for advice. Maybe this "pclinuxOS" Distro is safer ?
I've never partitioned before (as I mentioned previously) and I assumed that Ubuntu would do the whole mess for me. Apparantly I was wrong.
So what should I do ? Try for the "alternate" (without the nice GUI interface) or pclinuxOS ?
jz32300, could you please post a link to the thread that documents the NTFS problem with Ubuntu 6.06 ?
Thanks in advance,
I've started a new thread in the Newb forum for help on installing Ubuntu 6.06 here.
Last edited by Johnny Faster; 06-10-2006 at 11:29 PM.