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Old 05-22-2014, 09:11 PM   #1
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Best Linux Distr for new users that can be installed w/o DVD or USB


I started using Linux about a month ago, so am pretty new. I help Seniors with computer traning or problems (Windows) for free. Many have XP computers, so I have been replacing XP with Linux & especially like Mint Cinnamon Petra because it's similar to what they are used to...but some problems:

I am trying to install to two old desktops that will install only from their CD drives, although they do have DVD and USB drives. I was only able to install Mint Julia from a CD, but don't like it. What is the most 'Windows-user' friendly version that I can install for them? Is it possible to install the basics of a larger distribution (like Petra)from a CD, and then download the rest from the internet after the installation?

Thanks!
 
Old 05-22-2014, 09:19 PM   #2
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I can't say what is best but a number of ways follow.

PXE/GPXE/IPXE boot from a floppy or onboard nic to some source. Fedora should still have that. www.boot.me has examples.

Use some cd to clone an image, some usb and cd/dvd images are actually hybrid type that in some cases can be copied directly to a hard drive.

Network booting from cd. Many distro's offer it but not always clearly say or can find it. One boots to a cd and then can choose a usb attached dvd or network. Opensuse lets me do that.

Similar to that one might boot to a cd and then tell it to use dvd. Some installers will allow you to change disc's.

One can build a custom distro for a cd.

Might look at other specialty distro's. Slitaz for example but many more exist.

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Old 05-22-2014, 09:28 PM   #3
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Debian netinstall?
 
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Old 05-22-2014, 10:36 PM   #4
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The seniors I installed Carolina 1.2 for are happy campers that never ran Linux before.
Usb automounts and everything. Fits on a CD. Pretty much a no brainer.

Another few like MX-14 also.

Youtube has videos

on both. Both fit on cd.

Both distros come in non pae versions if doubt about age of cpu.
If under 4gig of ram.
Non pae is fine.

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Old 05-22-2014, 11:54 PM   #5
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Thanks, all! I'm installing the Debian right now...I love that it went to the net to get most of its stuff! Jefro, you were too technical for me...probably good answer but I didn't get it. I'll try Carolina if I don't like Debian, once it's done. Thanks again!
 
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If you're in a location that doesn't have decent access to the net or access is metered you can download Debian on CDs and use multiple CDs to install the entire system.
AMD64 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.5.0/amd64/iso-cd/
i386 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.5.0/i386/iso-cd/
Take note that There are 4 different CD1s The generic is Gnome but you can also get KDE, LXDE, and XFCE versions of CD1 on the same page and this allows you to choose what Desktop Environment suits your purpose, or the purpose of the person you are installing it for, best.
 
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Old 05-23-2014, 12:15 AM   #7
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Thank you, K3lt01! I found the website. If I find that I like Debian, I'll download a set...never know what kind of internet I'll have when I'm at someone's home...and sure don't want to use my phone's 4G!!!
 
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Debian is just the base, you can install any desktop environment on it.
 
Old 05-23-2014, 01:06 AM   #9
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Not sure I understand...do you mean I could install a Petra desktop on it? Also, I want to install TeamViewer. I went to the website, but it's weird so far...and it's getting late...any suggestions for remoting to other people's computers?

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Old 05-23-2014, 01:16 AM   #10
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Linux is an operating system. It has no GUI. Xorg is an application that runs on top of Linux or any other POSIX compliant OS. There are window managers and desktop environments that run on top of Xorg.
 
Old 05-23-2014, 01:35 AM   #11
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Linux is an operating system. It has no GUI. Xorg is an application that runs on top of Linux or any other POSIX compliant OS. There are window managers and desktop environments that run on top of Xorg.
Indeed. Just like in the old days. Linux = DOS. Windows used to run ontop of DOS. That's what a desktop environment like Cinnamon does

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Old 05-23-2014, 02:25 AM   #12
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Not sure I understand...do you mean I could install a Petra desktop on it? Also, I want to install TeamViewer. I went to the website, but it's weird so far...and it's getting late...any suggestions for remoting to other people's computers?
Petra is not a desktop (Desktop Environment or DE for short) it is a version of LinuxMint just like XP and Vista are versions of Windows. Popular and commonly known Desktop Environments are Cinnamon (Linux Mint's own) Gnome, KDE, LXDE, MATE, Unity (Ubuntu's own), XFCE. There are others but they are less well known, one that immediately comes to mind is Trinity. The links are some light reading for you.

There are also Window Managers (WM for short) that are lighter than DEs and some are quite usable even for beginners.

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