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Old 03-23-2004, 09:31 AM   #1
Cryptor69
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Question Beginner Q : Macromedia & Photoshop on Slackware Linux ?


I have decided to try and switch from Windows XP Prof. v2002 to Linux. After reading up on it I decided to try Slackware Linux first and if that does not work to try Debian.

I'am a webmaster and was wondering if anyone had expirience in running the below software under Linux ?

Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 2004
Macromedia Flash MX 2004
Photoshop CS

Also, what do you think about my choice of Linux flavour ?

PS: I'am about to install on p4 2.+ Ghz, 40 Gb HD, Geforce 5200, 256 MB RAM
 
Old 03-23-2004, 09:41 AM   #2
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On frankscorner there are instructions to make Photoshop and Dreamweaver work under Linux.
But if I were you I wouyld try and stick with the gimp instead of trying to run Windows apps like Photoshop under Linux, they will run worse than under Windows anyway because of the emulation layer.
And for Dreamweaver I never used it so I wouldn't know what to use instead of that ... except kwrite maybe
 
Old 03-23-2004, 10:34 AM   #3
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I agree with Ice9 use the gimp its as good as photoshop, free and runs natively on linux. For flash there are a few projects around that are making flash creation programs, forgotten the name of them, try searching sourceforge.net .
 
Old 03-23-2004, 10:37 AM   #4
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Aw, right, Dreamweaver is for flash!!!
Well, this is where you can see how huge a fan of flash I am
 
Old 03-23-2004, 05:41 PM   #5
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DW MX2004 doesn't work under wine or crossover office afaik, older versions do though.
 
Old 03-24-2004, 12:50 AM   #6
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;)

Just to straighten this out :

Dreamweaver is an advanced HTML editor
Flash is for.....Flash
Freehand is a vector graphix program


Thanks for your replies everyone !

Flash MX 2004 not running under Linux is a big problem, I can easily do without Dreamweaver, but there is not replacement for Flash MX 2004 ;(
 
Old 03-24-2004, 01:52 AM   #7
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you could always leave xp on your pc for now untill a version of flashmx comes out for linux. it's pretty easy creating a duel boot setup with xp and most linux distros. dunno about debain though, i was going to install it originally but a tutorial i read up on said it's best to install it on a hard drive that didn't have any other operating systems on.
 
Old 03-24-2004, 02:11 AM   #8
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I thought flash was a windows(as in they developed it) thing....
The lack of knowledge here does prove how little linux people care about flash, then again a portion of the community use console browsers .
Is flash actually an irreplacable part of web development? It seems bulky and nothing but a hastle for visitors....(who actually watches the intros?). Is there a graphical movie replacement or is that actually something that you take a lot of time to train for(thus being a skill, thus being something you can't throw to the wayside.)

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Old 03-24-2004, 09:21 AM   #9
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I'm a webmaster too, but I mostly do backend stuff which is why I'm on Linux - Apache, PHP and MySQL pay my bills

I run Mandrake myself - it's a doddle to install and does what I need without much fiddling about. KDE is v user-friendly for Windoze migrants; Quanta is a nice editor if you're not looking for WYSIWYG, and The GIMP is excellent for web graphics (JPEG optimisation and GIF animation built in).

However, for the kind of multimedia web development you're talking about, Linux really isn't there yet. I think if anything, OSX is the obvious choice - you have the multimedia angle from the trad Mac community plus the ability to run 'nix programs like Apache.

My advice - play with Linux by all means, but if you're used to Macromedia's point'n'click approach to web design, you're stuck with Windoze for the immediate future.
 
Old 03-25-2004, 12:59 AM   #10
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Question ;)

I have been hand "coding" ( if you can call it that ) html/php etc.. long before i touched Macromedia so that is not a problem. I am fed up with microsoft and decided to make the plunge, tried installing slackware and found it very easy if not a tad confusing ( unfortunatelly my 2nd CD does not work so I could not finalize the install ).

For me as a web designer Linux has everything BUT flash. To be honest I'll be glad to switch from Photoshop as well. Flash is not only for intros, you most likelly don't even notice it or know where it;s been used. It has ALOT of uses.

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Old 03-25-2004, 01:09 AM   #11
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I would stick with dual booting, because apart from needing to develop flash, you need to be able to test your pages in IE and in a native windows environment because that's what 95% of your viewers are going to be using. I'm a web developer by trade too, and that is the one thing that stops me from getting rid of windows completely. Although I hate Flash.

Your other option is VMWare, which is a virtual machine that lets you run Windows inside Linux (so you can use both at the same time). It works very well, although I would say you'd need a RAM upgrade because it is a very heavy system to use, and it's not (supposed to be ) free. It is also not quite a native Windows system, and some sites that use nasty IE-only components will make it choke.
 
Old 03-26-2004, 10:45 AM   #12
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I've used Linux on and off for years. Unfortunantly the lack of Photoshop, Flash and 3d Studio pull me back into the grueling computer-killing Windows all the time.

As per the GIMP being as good as Photoshop, I can't really agree. The user interface doesn't seem at all as intuitive as I'm sure their goal was.. What with all the impossible to find submenus and all. I have used Photoshop since 1997 and as it is the market standard is doesn't seem efficient for me to switch over.. I'm not a big fan of learning things I already know for other programs, unless there's a strong market demand for knowledge in it.

If you have patience, Macromedia actually plans on moving their products towards Linux compatibility. They say Flash will supported by Wine in the near future and then they'll develop it for Native support. It's all at a test phase right now, but there's always hope. On to the usability of Flash, I say the Flash usability in Web Pages ended years ago. It isn't an efficient solution for those purposes. I find it adequate for web based games and applications however. While Java is more powerful, Flash takes about a minute to install in any major browser (as opposed to the 20mb download followed by a 5 minute install on the Windows platform for Java) It can call PHP scripts and retrieve information back from it.. so with that support behind it you can make it do near anything if you have the patience.

3d Studio I don't really need, it's just a nice way to waste some time. Essentially if I had a working copy of Photoshop and Flash for Linux.. I'd switch over in about as long time as it takes for me to backup 80gb.
 
Old 03-27-2004, 05:09 AM   #13
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Lack of Macromedia Support...

I tried to switch to Linux but unfortunatelly it won't happen. As a web designer I do most of my work with the Macromedia MX 2004 Studio software, unfortunatelly none of these products work on Linux at this time.

As for Gimp, after playing with it for 3 days, I think it's excellent and would not hasitate for a second to switch to it from Photoshop.

Unfortunatelly lack of Linux support from Macromedia forces me to re-install my Windows XP Prof.

PS: During those 3 days I played a bit with Mozilla and some other software for Linux and I have to say it's all excellent. As soon as some of the main software packages used out there will become available for Linux I would expect a mayor migration of users to Linux.

I really liked Linux, I will always try to support open source projects when possible, but at this time unfortunatelly the toold that I use the most do not have any support for it.

Hear that Macromedia pple ? ;P

PS: With Linux I had great OS + great graphioc program ( gimp ) + very good office program ( open office ) + 1000's of other programs of various size FOR FREE ! It really is a shame that Macromedia does not support it.
 
Old 03-27-2004, 05:27 AM   #14
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listen man in new slackware version of linux they r giving gimp with the CD.
so not to worry abt.i'm a slack user and i prefer slack is the best of all
linux versions.gimp works as good as the photoshop(maybe much better than that)
so go for it make a dual boot no probes with slackware for dual booting.
slackware is giving the very handy packages.so go for it.r u a new for linux
or u have used it before.
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