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Old 06-10-2009, 06:11 PM   #1
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Attempting to install DSL - liveCD hangs


Hello all.

I've been using linux for the last few years, but this issue I have seemed like a newbie question. I'm currently refurbishing my dad's Compaq Deskpro Pentium II 450mhz/64 MB RAM system, which previously used windows 98.Planned to install DSL because I lost my old red hat install CD's.

however, after running the liveCD for 4.4.10, it would hang. I restarted this time by running the 'failsafe' option. this time it stopped after giving the message: "ramdisk compressed image found at block 0".

Tried other options such as "frugal", expert, and dsl 2 to try and fix it.

Googling for this, I found that it seemed to stem from errors on the disc. however, I md5'd my disc, and tried running it on two other machines(worked fine).

I also was given another set up of memory kernel options to try, but the system did not recognize them.

It looks like a pretty common error, but lots of possible causes. All assistance is appreciated.

Thank you.
 
Old 06-10-2009, 08:30 PM   #2
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Did you try the low-ram cheatcode for DSL?
Also, you realize 64MB of RAM is BAD for any distro really, unless it's a Console-only Linux.
Or, if you are really determined Not to buy more RAM, then you could try a really low-ram Debian install with the lightest apps and wm's like fluxbox, icewm, etc
You will have to learn alot about fluxbox etc to configure it.
A low-ram Slackware install too, as above would work.

Another possibility is to use a distro like Mulinux
( http://mulinux.dotsrc.org/ )
note that to get the X-window system with XFCE you will have to install like 12 floppies. #8
( http://www.linfo.org/mulinux.html )
a nice screnshot too
( http://mulinux.dotsrc.org/mu/img/desktop.jpg )
and a livecd too
( http://mulinux.dotsrc.org/mu/iso/ )
says it can run on 8MB RAM so it would pretty fast on 64MB RAM.
It's not the most up-to-date linux, but neither is 64MB
A good challenge though...
 
Old 06-10-2009, 08:35 PM   #3
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With 64mb, I wouldn't even use fluxbox et al, but I'd agree with linus72; You say you md5'd the disk... how? What did you do to do that? It does sound like a bad disk, and thats what I'd go with, but if you md5'd it...
 
Old 06-10-2009, 08:55 PM   #4
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I mounted the disc on my ubuntu system, ran md5 on it, and compared it to the checksum provided. I think the disc is good(the first one I burned however was bad)

I know the computer should be scrapped, but my dad is being pretty stubborn about using that specific computer, and I don't really want to put in more memory.

I'll try the new distro, but there wasn't a lowram option listed in the cheat code menu.
 
Old 06-10-2009, 09:00 PM   #5
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Let me also say dsl2hd install uses alot less ram than frugal install, which basically runs like from cd.
If you wanna experiment and you have a PC/Laptop with at least 256MB
download a couple portables which are portable-qemu-operating systems that run off
usb, off cd, or out of the folder on your desktop in windows or linux.
( http://multidistro.com/downloads/por...portables.html )
I suggest you start with portable-dsl2hd and portable-mydsl.
The screenshots are of me playing with portable-dsl IN dsl booting off usb!
( http://multidistro.com/shots/scrnshots.html )
Most cool.
the info page should help a little
( http://multidistro.com/downloads/portables/INFO )
Also, if you click the link below and watch the youtube video.

The cool thing about these are you can experimebnt doing installs, etc without risking your hd or anything 'cause it's all virtual.
wonderful learning tool.
It's too ahrd and confusing to explain
just punish the bandwidth and go crazy!
My other multidistro stuff has alot of different stuff to.
I'm addicted toi tinycore at the moment and trying to finish
tinycore-2.0 superpack which is for fat32 or ext3 usb, isolinux.cd and grub.cd
plus portable-tinycore-2.0 which runs from a 500MB vhd(virtualHardDrive)
which has 3 other vhd's INSIDE it which tc backups apps, etc to.
and I got ttylinux-8.1 portable inside portable-tinycore.
an example is screenshot #3 here
( http://multidistro.com/shots/scrnshots.html )
that's portable-dsl INSIDE portable-dsl playing on dsl liveusb!
Crazy dude; Linux is Madcap.
hope I didn't just twirl your brain...or mine.
 
Old 06-10-2009, 09:03 PM   #6
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You know, thinking about it, that message isn't your error; thats just outputting where the ramdisk image is. What other messages do you get?
 
Old 06-10-2009, 09:11 PM   #7
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Here, see on the second chart it says "lowram" as a cheatcode and others.
( http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/i...hp/Cheat_Codes )

says dsl can run on 24mb ram...
hmmm, my toshiba 7000CT won't take dsl either, always hangs.
But DSL-N does boot on my toshiba, maybe try it,
( http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/...dsl-n/current/ )
note that rc4 is the latest
don't download this one, just read about it.
( http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/dsl-n/ )
 
Old 06-11-2009, 02:34 PM   #8
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Thank you evreyone, installing DSL-n worked perfectly! It's still slow as hell, but it can do the basic stuff, and that is enough. Maybe I can get some RAM for it.
 
Old 06-11-2009, 02:37 PM   #9
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That's good!
Now, just what apps do you really need, as tinycore starts at 10MB and if you only install
low-ram non-gtk apps, it should run ok.

also, did do dsl-n hd install or frugal install?
 
Old 06-12-2009, 07:11 PM   #10
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That's good!
Now, just what apps do you really need, as tinycore starts at 10MB and if you only install
low-ram non-gtk apps, it should run ok.

also, did do dsl-n hd install or frugal install?
I did dsl-n hd install. Evreything works fine, as gnumeric and abiword are excellent performers on the system. I set up the email client because browsing yahoo! email on the browser is very slow. I'm hoping that putting a bit more RAM in will fix that.

However, I can't seem to mount usb thumbdrives, so I set up the ftp server to transfer files.

lsusb shows that it sees the device, and it's listed in /proc/bus/usb. however, when I mount it (sudo mount -t vfat /dev/uba /mnt/usb) It either refuses to mount(invalid block device) or mounts it as a follder 001, and contains files 001 and 002(both are gibbrish). Looking at the DSL-n forums it looks like a bug, so I may just have to wait.

Thanks for all the help, this setup is amazing given the hardware it runs on. ^_^
 
  


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