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Old 03-26-2013, 12:21 PM   #1
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are there any internet sites that cannot be accessed by linux>


Are there any internet sites that cannot be accessed via linux?ie music,videos,etc
 
Old 03-26-2013, 12:32 PM   #2
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Guess you meant 'web-browsers running on linux'... well, some sites still prefer Internet Explorer, but they are less common than they used to be.
 
Old 03-26-2013, 12:34 PM   #3
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There will be, yes. I know that up until recently Netflix, which uses Silverlight, did not work at all under Linux and from what I can gather it's troublesome to get working still -- it could stop working, either temporarily or permanently, at any time if something changes. There will be other sites out there which can't be used under Linux for similar reasons.
 
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Indian Government websites...
 
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Old 03-26-2013, 01:14 PM   #5
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i would like some specifics please ,what sites prefer internet explorer,what problems have been encountered that are specific to linux?
 
Old 03-26-2013, 01:31 PM   #6
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OP: What's your purpose? You can block any site under security settings of your browser, and then that will not be accessible.
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Indian Government websites...
Don't make fun of it. As far as I know, thay all are easily accessible through firefox or epiphany or other Unix browsers.
 
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i would like some specifics please ,what sites prefer internet explorer,what problems have been encountered that are specific to linux?
Well, I can't list every site because that would take forever.
There are a few types of problems:
Some sites are written to look at the type of browser and only accept IE over a certain version. Thankfully these are getting rare.
Some sites are written in such a way that they take advantage of quirks in IE so may look different in other browsers, or not work correctly. Again, thankfully, getting rare.
Then there are site which use Silverlight which is a Microsoft only technology. There is Moonlight for Linux but this will not work for all sites which run on Silverlight -- especially those which serve video with "Digital Rights Management". This has been worked around using Silverlight with WINE [I believe] but since it's a workaround it is not guaranteed to work.
Then there are some sites still using ActiveX (yes, really) though these tend to be mainly on company intranets (Blackberry Enterprise Server management tools used to be IE only, not sure if they still are, and I think that was due to this).
There are also other plugins that are for IE or Windows only but without googling around I can't think of them off the top of my head. I suppose things like Quicktime come under this heading though most videos Windows would use Quicktime for can be played under Linux.
 
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Don't make fun of it. As far as I know, thay all are easily accessible through firefox or epiphany or other Unix browsers.
try this Ministry of Road Transport & Highways, and Click "Driving Licence" on left menu and see what happens.

Its the case of most websites.

Anyway sorry... it was just a humor.

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Old 03-26-2013, 02:03 PM   #9
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try this Ministry of Road Transport & Highways, and Click "Driving Licence" on left menu and see what happens.

Its the case of most websites.

Anyway sorry... it was just a humor.
It opened properly (see this link), but it has certificate error, which you can ignore. But rest is ok.
 
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but it has certificate error, which you can ignore. But rest is ok.
I'm accessing this from firefox on CentOs 6.4. What i'm missing...
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It opened properly (see this link), but it has certificate error, which you can ignore. But rest is ok.
Did you click the driving license link?
 
Old 03-26-2013, 02:44 PM   #12
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No. DL's link isn't accessible through firefox neither in Linux nor in Windows (Windows 7/8). So as it says - it supports only IE browser.

Well, I consider this link as an exception... But how can one tell that all Indian Govt. sites are not accessible through firefox in linux? It's not true. May be the DL's link requires some additional plug-ins, which is available in IE only.

Also check what OP has asked... music or video site that's not accessible. So this site ain't a music or video site.
 
Old 03-26-2013, 02:55 PM   #13
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I think the fact that even one page doesn't work, especially an important one, is very bad. I think the UK government used to have pages like that but were made to change them. Some banks here were IE only also but hopefully they've all been recoded since lots of people use tablets nowadays.
 
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Well, I consider this link as an exception... But how can one tell that all Indian Govt. sites are not accessible through firefox in linux? It's not true. May be the DL's link requires some additional plug-ins, which is available in IE only.

OK! i agree. not all websites. but most websites are like this. forget linux, some even dont open.
Department of Public Distribution
Consular Passport & Visa Division
Airforce careers
National Crime Records Bureau - Missing & Kidnapped Person

and so on...

Never mind. i'm going off topic. as '273' explained it right...
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Some sites are written to look at the type of browser and only accept IE over a certain version. Thankfully these are getting rare.
Some sites are written in such a way that they take advantage of quirks in IE so may look different in other browsers, or not work correctly. Again, thankfully, getting rare.
Then there are site which use Silverlight which is a Microsoft only technology. There is Moonlight for Linux but this will not work for all sites which run on Silverlight -- especially those which serve video with "Digital Rights Management". This has been worked around using Silverlight with WINE [I believe] but since it's a workaround it is not guaranteed to work.
Then there are some sites still using ActiveX (yes, really) though these tend to be mainly on company intranets (Blackberry Enterprise Server management tools used to be IE only, not sure if they still are, and I think that was due to this).
There are also other plugins that are for IE or Windows only but without googling around I can't think of them off the top of my head. I suppose things like Quicktime come under this heading though most videos Windows would use Quicktime for can be played under Linux.

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Old 03-26-2013, 05:18 PM   #15
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try this Ministry of Road Transport & Highways, and Click "Driving Licence" on left menu and see what happens.

Its the case of most websites.

Anyway sorry... it was just a humor.
At least with Opera, yes certificates are a problem, but you also have to change 'identify as' (right click on the page, use the 'network' tab) so that the browser identifies itself as IE and the problem goes away (you seem to have to change the 'identify as' part before you click on the 'Driving License' link or the message still comes up).

I don't know why people do this cr@p, but you can't say that the people who put this website together come out of this well, and nor do the people who commissioned it.
 
  


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