[SOLVED] Are there any installers that will simply fire up Linux when you click "install" ? (like one old wubi I recall))
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Just a quick clarification of something you posted early on, AMD came out with the x86-64 extensions, they named it amd64, so that was the first name of the 64-bit extensions to x86, AMD64, regardless of who makes the processor it's the same extensions so amd64 is considered to be more of an "official" name of those 64-bit extensions by some distros.
Edit - hopefully that's understandable. Made sense in my head, realized it became kinda run-on.
Last edited by Timothy Miller; 08-31-2016 at 02:51 PM.
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basically EVERY ( well most) distros have a bootable DVD install iso
burn it to a dvd
pop it in and reboot
then click " INSTALL"
simple
installing a linux OS is way EASIER than installing a windows OS
-- WAY EASIER
Thanx, John VV, like your style. Are you sure you don't want to take this opportunity to show off your knowledge of unrelated topics, chide me for my ignorance and laziness, and generally ignore the original question altogether? No? Good lad, thanx again.
Just one question, since I have abandoned all hope of getting an answer to the original one; where IS this "bootable DVD install iso" ???
I have an iso on disc, one on USB, and another on my HDD; Lubuntu 16.04 is mounted on z: as we speak, I see 9 directories and 2 files <<<.disk, casper, install, pics, preseed, boot, dists, isolinux, and pool, plus README.diskdefines and md5sum.txt>>> .... I'm sure the "bootable DVD install iso" is in there somewhere but Winblows just gapes and stares at most of these, utterly clueless; any chance I could fire up any of this from Puppy?
Oh, one last fly in the mix: my "oem" ( a perfidious misnomer ) was Lenovo, and I have noticed that they surreptiously padlocked the BIOS so that changing the bootsearch sequence is not an option, at least not from the BIOS menu. This may, I realise, screw a perfectly good solution to my dilemna.
thanx again.
The ISO file is the bootable media only if you write it to disc (DVD or CD) or USB flash drive correctly. You can not just copy the ISO file.
To create a bootable disk (CD or DVD) you need to "burn as image" which Windows XP needs a program like isorecorder. Windows 7+ it is "built in" To create a bootable flash drive you need a program like rufus.
Depends on what boot loader you are using for puppy. You need grub2 to boot an iso file. I don't think this is an option.
9.04 is a really outdated version. If you do a websearch for "wubiuefi", you find community supported Wubi versions for recent Ubuntu versions.
I installed some of these Wubi versions. If you want Wubi, the github versions of hakuna-m are great.
But of course, Wubi has never intented to be a long term installation. I also use other installations without Wubi. But sometimes, it is useful.
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HEY, LOOK FOLKS, NessieH actually read and understood the question!!! THANK YOU, NessieH; please, sit over here with me and the elite few who have actually addressed the issue since I raised it.
This >>> "Ubuntu Website Warns Windows Users: Don't Use WUBI - OMG! Ubuntu! www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/wubi-advice
11 Apr 2013 - A week or so after being thrown off of the default Ubuntu 13.04 disc image, the Ubuntu
website is now also warning users against using WUBI[/I] ...",
and the fact that half of the responses to the query (on the first 2 pages) are red flags -- complaints, problems, bug reports -- in no way diminishes our appreciation for your contribution.
I guess I'll abandon my search for a reliable wubi-type app, or any other sort of simple, straightforward, "click here to install Linux", and start sorting through the morass of software accoutrements necessary for the standard approach to getting Linux onto a Winblows machine. Thanks to all for your responses, except those of you who were merely showing off, harassing a newbie, or otherwise demonstrating your psychoemotional deficiencies; I would respond to your affronts in a most scathing fashion, I assure you, but you are not worth the time.
John VV wrote:
The ISO file is the bootable media only if you write it to disc (DVD or CD) or USB flash drive correctly. You can not just copy the ISO file.
To create a bootable disk (CD or DVD) you need to "burn as image" which Windows XP needs a program like isorecorder. Windows 7+ it is "built in" To create a bootable flash drive you need a program like rufus.
Depends on what boot loader you are using for puppy. You need grub2 to boot an iso file. I don't think this is an option.
BIOS locked? Is this a desktop or a laptop?
OMG... just as I am saying my good-byes, intelligent responses start popping up. I had almost given up....
Hi again, JVV, thanks for that intelligible, fact-oriented response to a question which should clue you in as to how long it has been since I have been exposed to modern technology and the internet.
I am still bemused by the apparent fact that one downloads something which purports to be a Linux distro but is actually a file in a format unuseable by the computer, unless one possesses or downloads a program that makes the file useable; but it doesn't, really, because one must use another program to "mount" the file, a different program to transmogrify that file while placing it on a disk, or a different program to do the same on a USB stick; and finally, yet another program to take critical piece of the object file to the boot manager, which will, hopefully, present the owner with an option to utilise the "distro" that he thought he was downloading in the first place.
Over the last half-century I have encountered many deliberately cumbersome, convoluted, cryptic systems in the artificial world we have created, and will somewhat sheepishly admit that I was nearly half-a-century old before it came drifting down to me that the reason for this was to weed out the weaklings, foster job security, and, well, just make things more complicated than a sane person would consider sane. I still consider this agenda unconscionable, but I realise that it keeps us all busy, eh?
So now I will download the two programs you recommended and pursue the quest.
I'm currently on an old Pentium 3 desktop, WinXP, a gig of RAM... as good a machine as the last time I ran Linux, perhaps 10 or 12 years ago.
Thanks again.
Last edited by danrevell; 08-31-2016 at 07:52 PM.
Reason: reword
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=100422
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Thank you, Rokytnj1, for a straightforward response of what is probably a list of excellent resources, most of them relevant to the issue... but it was your tagline that got me. Absolutely priceless.
But, due to time constraints, I must hoist you on your own petard.
Still........ priceless.
The ISO file is the bootable media only if you write it to disc (DVD or CD) or USB flash drive correctly. You can not just copy the ISO file.
To create a bootable disk (CD or DVD) you need to "burn as image" which Windows XP needs a program like isorecorder. Windows 7+ it is "built in" To create a bootable flash drive you need a program like rufus.
Depends on what boot loader you are using for puppy. You need grub2 to boot an iso file. I don't think this is an option.
downloaded iosrecorder; stalls, needing IMAPI2; microsux.com says IMAPI2 download page "not found".
downloaded rufus; it sees my USB stick with Lubuntu 16.04.1 iso, but appears to be offering to merely make a bootable device. Am I going to lose the iso and my sanity when Rufus returns to me a blank-but-bootable USB stick, or am I ready to rock ????
HUH?? WHAT?? What did I say?????
I am not the sort to cut my own throat by insulting one of the few sane people in the vicinity; I think I may have been misunderstood, I apologise, to what are you referring, good sir?
Difficult to say, as long as the problem is not named.
The problem is precisely as I outlined it, however briefly: I am having the devil of a time simply getting Linux on my machine, a Pentium D 3.0 dual with a paltry meg of RAM.
ONE MB of ram?
I don't think any of the systems will run in 1 MB. Not since DOS on a 286. The smallest Linux I have run was in 4MB. But that was back in the days of a 486DX2.
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( PUPPY is up and dual-ing, but I have already suppressed the memories of what it took to accomplish that... just did it to brag to my WINBLOWS friends that I had an OS which loads into a half-gig of RAM. !8--] )
Fedora CAN run in 512MB. Not well, but it will run.
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This is my 3rd return to Linux over the last 20 years, and I am determined to get it on my machine, but it seems even more convoluted and difficult than the last time, several years back.
>>> What I am looking for is an exe like "wubi.exe", circa 2001, that actually downloaded and installed Ubuntu when you double-clicked on it. Then it asked if you wanted to restart your computer now, and, when you did, you were greeted during boot-up with a choice of OS.... simple, easy, made me an avid Linux fanatic. <<<
Thank you for your reply, you are probably right-on with your observations but as you said I didn't go into much detail about the nature of the problem. I thought the title self-explanatory.
Every system requires some basic information from you. How do you want to use your disk storage? Do you want to wipe out everything? How much swap space do you want (if any), do you want your personal files separated from the system files? Where do you want the distribution from (DVD? Network? elsewhere?), what kind of network do you use (static with you specifying the configuration, DHCP where something else assigns the configuration?)...
One click CAN work - but the questions have to be pre-answered somewhere.
Oh, look, another sentient entity on LQ !! Thank you, JP:
[QUOTE=jpollard;5599065][QUOTE=danrevell;5598623]
ONE MB of ram?
I don't think any of the systems will run in 1 MB. Not since DOS on a 286. The smallest Linux I have run was in 4MB. But that was back in the days of a 486DX2.
******** Nailed me. Thank you, I meant to say 1 GIG of RAM.
(btw, I remember the days we would have KILLED for a whole meg of RAM. !:--] ) *********
Fedora CAN run in 512MB. Not well, but it will run.
******** I am currently running Puppy on the dual, it's taking 478 meg with almost no add-ons. ********
Every system requires some basic information from you. How do you want to use your disk storage? Do you want to wipe out everything? How much swap space do you want (if any), do you want your personal files separated from the system files? Where do you want the distribution from (DVD? Network? elsewhere?), what kind of network do you use (static with you specifying the configuration, DHCP where something else assigns the configuration?)...
******** I think you're over-complicating it now. ***********
One click CAN work - but the questions have to be pre-answered somewhere.
*********** 48 hours of LQ-ing, research, downloads, and frustrated attempts, and you want me to believe this?
No offense intended. I appreciate your attention to the matter, and the fact that you can spell and
express yourself well in English... but I came to the end of my rope a little while ago and
abandoned all hope of a one-click solution like the wubi.exe I used somewhere around Y2K. It
downloaded AND installed Hardy Heron, i think it was, with one click. I was presented with the
dual-boot option immediately upon reboot. THAT's what I was looking for when I started this
thread.
Thanks again, though, JP, it's nice to hear from intelligent people here.
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**************** Upon review of your post, it strikes me that you must be nearly as ancient as I myself, and possibly a
veritable gold-mine of experience and wisdom.
DOS on a 286?!? Linux in 4Mgb ?!? 486DX2 ?!? Half of these kids on here won't even know what you're
saying, old man, but I think I have just been transported back to the magical mystical days of my youth!
When did you start 'pooting? What was your first machine? Remember Eliza, and Lisa? Dial-up via AOL?
The Windows PROGRAM? Sinclairs, Ataris, and TRaSh-80S? Talk to me, bro, I'm all acquiver !!
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