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Old 12-11-2012, 09:50 AM   #16
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The rest of you need to settle down. Installing drivers in Windows vs Linux is NO WHERE NEAR THE SAME THING!
We did not, we do not, compare.
It is different if you are trying to install Free and Open Software because most OEM's do not support linux kernel, they do not want to open up sources to linux free coders; they only wanted to sell us their hardware and put obstacle at us in using them. Unfair.

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I've never had to recompile kernels and manually edit Windows config files (after searching the internet for hours to find out exactly WHAT to edit).
That is Microsoft, not Gnu/linux.
In this community we have to survive against the unfairness of always wanting the support from hardware manufacturers concerning drivers or modules.


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Look, I like Linux and I appreciate that forums like this exist, but a majority of you who post either don't answer the questions or smugly say "all that needs to be done is X" where X is editing/doing something that a Linux noob has no idea about.
Not true. Read again the help posts of few members above.
Your kind of nvidia is not new; there are lots of success stories out there. But the shortest way is to go by way of quasi-commercial distros that have met nvidia with more success: Suse, Linux Mint, Redhat, Ubuntu and lastly PCLinux <this is aimed to imitate M$windows PCs >.

More or less the problem with nvidia to its linux users is by their own making: they are hesitant to open up; there is nouveau of course but it is grim. My solution when I was facing (before, but today I never buy nvidia until time they follow Intel's openess) was to install proprietary driver, the nvidia_xxxxxxx.run or .sh, it automatically recompile the kernel for you, no headache, but for some reasons they abandoned it. On the contrary, since Intel opened sources, not only that, it hired its own pool to help up linux coders for their chips, I never have much problem save few minor use of kernel options. The point I wish to speak here is that the problem with nvidia chips is caused by their own policy, not from Gnu/Linux side.


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Look, I'm sorry I wasn't using Linux back in the '80s and haven't already learned how to manually do any and everything.
"Everybody falls the first jump."

Not only you: us also, we started that way. So, welcome to the club.


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That's why I'm even posting in the first place. Some of you guys are no better than Mac fanboys.
Use whatever similitude your vocabulary compares to, but we are not fanboys, neither evil nor saints; we are neither illegals nor copyrighted by law: we are a community dedicated to social value of helping others in need for free and for the sake of Gnu/Linux, that the world will know that every form of civilization stands by the pillar of virtues, not of greed.

So mote it be.
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Old 12-11-2012, 12:30 PM   #17
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Thank you ...

There is no reason to assist those who refuse to learn, or who attack those who offer help.

Easy does not mean someone does it for you, it means it is not difficult to do.

I will only pet a dog that bites if he learns from the consequences.

Benefit of doubt. There is good advice above, read and think before responding.

I have never had a Linux distribution that would not use NVIDIA cards, but I have seen several that did not use it as I liked until I installed later or better drivers, or 'tweaked' the setup. I did not update drivers because I 'HAD' to, but because I 'WANTED' to!

I can say the same about a couple of other major cards (ATI, for example).
In the end, they all do exactly what they are made to do. Would it not be nice if we could say that about all people?

I am well paid for System and Network Administration in a mixed server environment, I do not get paid for commenting here. I am not sure if ANYONE gets paid for commenting here. This help is offered from the goodness of (reasonably) pure hearts. Your critique is regrettable, inaccurate, and undeserved.

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Old 12-11-2012, 01:13 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by knudfl View Post
PCLinuxOS has the Nvidia drivers included on the install DVD.
→ No configuring. It's all done automatically.

Current is PCLinuxOS-2012.08 ( 1.3 GB DVD )
http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dis...h=all&year=all

( Or the "special" version 2012.09 "KDE FullMonty" 4GB DVD )
Didn't know that either, learned something new today, thx.
 
Old 12-11-2012, 04:04 PM   #19
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Offensive, pointless attacks against community members removed.

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Old 12-11-2012, 04:08 PM   #20
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xbmc-live has the nvidia drivers rolled in. (it is basically ubuntu with non-free code installed so depending on what country you live in you can download and just run it).
 
Old 12-11-2012, 04:21 PM   #21
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Thanks for the info about nvidia blob included in a distro. It might come in handy one day... You never know.

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But, to the rest of you, TAKE A HIKE! You people just type and type and type and don't even care what you're saying, do you? You're so angry that anyone would DARE to call out the sacred and holy Linux kernel
Sorry, gaftfreak, but I've just read the whole thread and I can't help but notice that you're the only angry poster in this thread. The rest of the posts were just calm attempts to help you. Some of them were not exactly what you were looking for but hey, people tried to help as much as they could. It was you who was offensive, sarcastic and generally quite aggresive in your posts.

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Please do not reply if you A) Don't understand the question or B) Don't know what you're talking about.
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The rest of you need to settle down. Installing drivers in Windows vs Linux is NO WHERE NEAR THE SAME THING!
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That's why I'm even posting in the first place. Some of you guys are no better than Mac fanboys.
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So, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I wanted a straight answer about something that I had been searching for in vain for the last 20 days. I'm sorry I don't know each and every little trick and config file to edit. I'm sorry I just want my computer to work with your "superior" operating systems.
That's not a good introduction to any community. I hope next time you ask a question you show more netiquette. Have fun with Linux. Linux is not a perfect OS, the cure to all the world's problems. It has its issues but it's a good operating system and a new user's willingess to invest some time in learning it would quickly pay off.
 
Old 12-11-2012, 04:28 PM   #22
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Ubuntu 12.10 has a bug (or had IDK) where the nvidia driver would install properly, but the linux kernel headers were missing.
I had to manually update everything to the latest kernel/headers then instasll the propietary drivers. Took about 5 minutes, inlcuding the googling part.
 
Old 12-11-2012, 04:30 PM   #23
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Wow. To the few people who actually read my question and answered me, thank you from the bottom of my heart. I sincerely appreciate the help and advice.

But, to the rest of you, TAKE A HIKE! You people just type and type and type and don't even care what you're saying, do you? You're so angry that anyone would DARE to call out the sacred and holy Linux kernel, that you completely miss the point. You're all so lost in your own little world where you spout off little quips about "libre" and "open" that you don't even realize you have no communication skills to the rest of the world.

So, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I wanted a straight answer about something that I had been searching for in vain for the last 20 days. I'm sorry I don't know each and every little trick and config file to edit. I'm sorry I just want my computer to work with your "superior" operating systems.

Yeah, Windows sucks, but at least they take care of the heavy lifting for you so you can get on with your life and use your computer to actually DO something and get your money's worth out of your hardware.

With Linux it's like, "Know everything about everything before you start." and "Without exception, you WILL spend the first week of your new install manually correcting every single bug that you'll run into - and even then, you'll have to use this crappy opensource driver that will NEVER use your hardware to it's full potential."

Maybe, if Linux was as easy to install as Windows, there would be a bigger marketshare and better diversity in the software and users. But NO. Why? Because most Linux gurus are snobbish and look down at the people who are just starting out. It's like they EXPECT Linux to be difficult (for no reason) so that they can sit in their ivory towers and look down on us "simple-folk" with no knowledge of BASH commands. They are the ones holding Linux back from being something beautiful that the entire world can share and enjoy.

(Now go ahead and quote ever single line from this post out of context and follow it up with a 2 paragraph speach using college-level gramar to make yourselves seem superior to me.)

Well I refuse to be held down and belittled by those bullies. I WILL get my graphics card to work with my monitor. I WILL learn more and more about Linux every day. I WILL live to see a day when Linux can be installed and work straight out of the box with ANY hardware, even if I have to hand code that distro myself. Good. Day.
Take your mad somewhere else.
The Linux community has helped through without calling me names even when I first started with linux and had no idea how to use sudo apt-get update
 
Old 12-11-2012, 05:00 PM   #24
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Hi, Welcome to LQ!

LQ has a fantastic search function that may save you time waiting for an answer to a popular question.

With over 4 million posts to search it's possible the answer has been given.
with your 640x480 colour screen do,

Code:
ctrl alt +
to increase the resolution (it cycles around from hi res to lo res)

Code:
ctrl alt -
to decrease the resolution (as above, visa-vis)


I started RH5.2 from a black screen, with strange prompt back in 2003/4.

I couldn't see anthing, but the pc was purring along....

I had inadvertantly deleated my win98/2k partition and installed RH over the top.

Then using the pc's at college, I got printed copies of recovery tips (and a new HD) and took them home to test.

after about 10days, I had all my win files back and was running knoppix and test install of Debian3 (iirc) on a separate partition.

Mate! I know where you are comming from. I hope I may speak for everyone here.... WE all do/did.

There's a nice quote from babbage...something like this
If we put in the wrong numbers will it still give the correct answer?

Cheers, and I hope to see you around the posts.

Regards Glenn
 
  


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